• Bo7a
    link
    fedilink
    English
    769 days ago

    And since then - We have found ways to make all travel worse for comfort, more expensive, and more necessary.

    • RaivoKulli
      link
      fedilink
      English
      89 days ago

      With internet, mobile phones, computers, travel seems to be way less necessary than before

      • Bo7a
        link
        fedilink
        English
        7
        edit-2
        9 days ago

        I was referring to the city planners as @[email protected] correctly surmised.

        I also have worked from home* for almost two decades. But the non-work travel is still stained by the horrible planning in most urban sprawls.

        * For various strange definitions of “home”. From a campground to an RV on a lake, and apartments in Switzerland to rotting farms in Alberta.

        • RaivoKulli
          link
          fedilink
          English
          1
          edit-2
          8 days ago

          I dunno for some years now city planners and their education has had increased focus on public transit, walkability, 15 minute cities and whatnot.

          I’d say combined with the car centric design being worse in the say 50’s, 60’s and so on and those times having no real means for remote work and less opportunities for communication remotely, I don’t think we’re at the worst point.

          • Bo7a
            link
            fedilink
            English
            18 days ago

            Not in Canada. Not in the US.

            Over here we are actively gutting existing bicycle infrastructure to please the right wing morons

              • Bo7a
                link
                fedilink
                English
                18 days ago

                I don’t think I understand your point here.

                I was talking about my experience which is 80% in North America. Your points do not apply in North America as we have actually been getting worse for non-car travel in most cities since the 90s.

                And that’s without even mentioning the atrocities that are considered inter-city or city-rural travel.

                • RaivoKulli
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  18 days ago

                  I was just saying that the developments aren’t true for my area. The area wasn’t specified in the start so that’s why I mentioned it

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        159 days ago

        I think they’re referring to how vehicle-centric planning for cities is more common (as opposed to walking or human-powered locomotion, like biking or skating)

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          89 days ago

          That’s mainly the US though. Here in the Netherlands they are planning cities with the intent to discourage car use as much as possible.

          • Bo7a
            link
            fedilink
            English
            5
            edit-2
            9 days ago

            Also Canada where the majority of my experience comes from. If I could see some my taxes going towards a Euro-style infra for moving people and things I would be a much happier person overall.

              • Bo7a
                link
                fedilink
                English
                18 days ago

                We actually did live in switzerland back in 2020 (I know, schengen is not EU) and were about to lease a home in France, but someone in my family fell ill and I had to come back to Canada.

                The transit, grocery , pharmacy, and cultural access was amazing to us, even in times when locals were complaining of severely limited services.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod
          link
          fedilink
          English
          59 days ago

          But it’s also become less necessary as we have much improved telecommunications. I regularly work with people halfway around the world from my house.

      • Bo7a
        link
        fedilink
        English
        4
        edit-2
        9 days ago

        Ditto. But the rest of the travel we do need to do to interact with people, amenities, and services, is still worse than it should be due to poor inter-city and city-rural transit. At least here in Canada. My time in Europe showed me how bad we really have it. Even with the unavoidable foibles that happen in the best of cases/countries.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod
          link
          fedilink
          English
          39 days ago

          Yeah. The small town I used to live in had trolley service to the nearest city about 20 miles away before they tore it up for a highway.

          I solve this problem by rarely leaving my home.