Researchers found low concentrations of so-called forever chemicals in various “eco-friendly” straws, raising doubts about whether they’re an appropriate alternative.

  • Neuromancer
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    152 years ago

    Maybe they shouldn’t be cheap. Everything shouldn’t be a race to the bottom.

      • Neuromancer
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        62 years ago

        I am a capitalist but by design it’s not a race to the bottom. It’s nothing more than someone putting capital up to create a business.

        Improper regulations create a race to the bottom. Minimum wage, environmental laws, etc need to be in place and heavily enforced.

        The Soviet Union was a communist country and they still had a race to the bottom mentality. Nuclear waste was just dumped into the environment

        Improper regulations and enforcement of those regulations are the issue.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          Except that someone putting capital up is looking to maximize their return. Obviously they want more back than what they put in. Given endless greed, you have a feedback loop where they put less and less in while getting more and more back. Those improper regulations are caused by those same people paying to prevent regulations or to have those regulations work in their favor.

          The Soviet Union was not a communist country because the means of production were not owned by the workers but instead by the state. The state being made up of a few privileged individuals who were the greedy bastards of that system.

          • Neuromancer
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            12 years ago

            Greed is inherent to humans. That isn’t going to change. We need to hold our elected officials accountable for their actions.

            Also you can’t keep putting in less and less. Eventually the system breaks. You end up with nothing since it broke.

            I think the hyper valuation of technology companies has become an issue due to the hyper wealth they have created. Typically I have no issue with people becoming wealthy but not we are hitting wealth that can truly change things. As such I support more regulation than I have in the past.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 years ago

              Greed is not inherent to humans, that’s just a lie sold to you by the greedy. I’m happy with what I’ve got and I’m not looking to collect mansions, yachts, trips to space, etc. Most people are fine with a modest lot in life and don’t relentlessly pursue unhealthy amounts of wealth. It’s a sickness.

              You can keep putting in less and less until the system breaks. This is what we’re seeing now. Cracks manifest in the form of gross wealth inequality (i.e. massive power imbalance) and all the consequences that entails. These greedy sickos will push the system to the limit and give back as little as they can to maintain power.

              • Neuromancer
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                12 years ago

                That learned behavior. We have learned not to be overly greedy but it’s inherent in us.

                It’s why communism always fails.

                Now I don’t mind wealth but I do mind the crazy tech inequality because I think what they do with the wealth is harmful. I never had an issue with Elon till he went nuts on twitter. Zucker is doing weird things with his money and elections.

                The wealthy use to build hospitals and libraries. Now they are mucking with core tenants of our republic and that I don’t agree with.

                • @[email protected]
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                  32 years ago

                  Pretending that your assertion is correct that communism always fails and that it’s because of greed, that still doesn’t mean greed is inherent in humans. All it takes is a few bad actors to ruin any system, if given enough power. Capitalism is failing right before our eyes due to this tiny minority of billionaires and capitalism had already failed due to a tiny minority of super wealthy in the past before it was rescued in response to mass protests that threatened revolution.

                  Speaking of salvaging terrible things, the wealthy used to build hospitals and libraries only as part of reputation laundering. They will do nothing unless they feel threatened. You’re focusing on tech in particular, but it’s a feature inherent in the ultra-wealthy. They will do only enough to save themselves and continue holding their position of power, otherwise they continue pushing limits.

                  • Neuromancer
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                    12 years ago

                    It’s well known in psychology. Freud even spoke about it.

                    Capitalism isn’t failing at all. It’s working quite well. Not sure why you’d think it’s failing. We just have a blip with inflation due to the pandemic.

                    I focus on tech because the insane wealth difference. Few people have the wealth of tech.

        • Sippy Cup
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          112 years ago

          Capitalism resists regulation, and races to the bottom. Two people, providing identical goods and I’m direct competition, will race to compete on price. If one manages to skirt regulation and the other doesn’t, the one who cheated will win.

          This will compound on itself until it overtakes an entire economy, and that’s where the US is now. Every corporate entity with the means to do so actively lobbying to defeat decades of proven regulation in the name of profit.

          It may not be by design, but it is in practice.

          • Neuromancer
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            32 years ago

            That’s where voting becomes important.

            Capitalism is the best system we have. Look at the good it’s done in the Nordic countries. It’s a proven and successful system.

            We just need people to care enough to vote.