Due to some EU laws, there has to be a “cookie consent” dialog on every website that uses cookies. I would estimate that more than 50% (probably too low) of these popups are cosmetic only and it doesn’t actually matter if you click accept or reject.
You could set your browser to clear all cookies when you close it. That does mean you have to keep logging into sites every time you open the browser again, but with a password manager that’s not really a problem.
gdpr is a different thing than the cookie law, refusing consent is a real thing that everyone in the industry spent a hell of a lot of time and effort implementing to the letter because the fines for companies are way too large for anyone to ignore
You usually first get an injunction with some time to fix the issue, little risk of immediate fines.
So there is little reason to implement a working consent dialog unless you get a legal notice to do so. When the law came out we got a lot of such notices over the lack of the dialog, but after a usless dialog was implemented, it stopped.
Guess lawyers aren’t that tech savy or have better things to do.
I call bullshit. As you talk about cookies (while the consent banners are about tracking), you should easily be able to give a few sources for those millions of pages that want to get into contact with their DPA.
Most of these consent pop ups are designed to be insanely annoying to the point where you just click accept all on a long list of cookies for individual things and they are not even grouped
90% of the time^1 there’s at least a Cancel or Reject button. Sometimes you even get to pick which categories right there without it being two or three levels deep.
1 based on my highly scientific method of pulling numbers outa mah butt
It’s sad that for some of the more obnoxious offenders where you need to individually opt out for each ad partner they carry it still may take the addon 30+ seconds. Imagine how long it would take to click everything manually. And that stuff is illegal by the way: rejecting everything must be just as easy as accepting everything. If I come across such a site I typically just avoid them from that point forward.
it’s illegal, there should be a “continue without accepting” link everytime, and in the selection of choice, all non essential should be disabled, but yeah, there’s still some website not playing the game correctly, hopefully UE will give sanction at some point?
Wasn’t a good read for me. A boring intro and then some speculation about possible new laws in the future, and Google Topics API mayybe making cookies obsolete.
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Due to some EU laws, there has to be a “cookie consent” dialog on every website that uses cookies. I would estimate that more than 50% (probably too low) of these popups are cosmetic only and it doesn’t actually matter if you click accept or reject.
Wow that suck. I always spend time turning off every legitimate consent button. So I get cookies anyway?
You could set your browser to clear all cookies when you close it. That does mean you have to keep logging into sites every time you open the browser again, but with a password manager that’s not really a problem.
You don’t need cookies to stay logged in anymore. You actually don’t need cookies for anything.
gdpr is a different thing than the cookie law, refusing consent is a real thing that everyone in the industry spent a hell of a lot of time and effort implementing to the letter because the fines for companies are way too large for anyone to ignore
There’s plugins that will do it for you (with the max privacy settings so you don’t have to worry about getting tricked by phrasing).
I even have one on my mobile browser.
What’s it called, friendo?
Ghostery is what I use on my phone (alongside other stuff like uBlock origin)
https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies
Thanks friendo!
Is there one for iOS browsers? I mostly use firefox on ios
No, it’s only for regular Firefox, and Firefox on iOS is just reskinned safari (so no plugins).
Yeah probably.
Use this: https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies And combine it with this: https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete
I’ve set it to delete cookies on domain change.
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That doesn’t sound realistic. There are real fines for non compliance and it’s trivial to find out what cookies you have.
You usually first get an injunction with some time to fix the issue, little risk of immediate fines.
So there is little reason to implement a working consent dialog unless you get a legal notice to do so. When the law came out we got a lot of such notices over the lack of the dialog, but after a usless dialog was implemented, it stopped.
Guess lawyers aren’t that tech savy or have better things to do.
I call bullshit. As you talk about cookies (while the consent banners are about tracking), you should easily be able to give a few sources for those millions of pages that want to get into contact with their DPA.
I have plenty, like close to 100 pages where I personally implemented the useless dialoge. But I’m sure not going to taddle on them.
But if you want to go hunting for it yourself: try small wordpress sites or other small self-hosted blogs.
This obviously won’t be true for websites of major corporations.
Can you not at least rat out the major sites? Surely you don’t have any moral qualms with that
I really don’t want to, I think it’s a rather stupid law that is both annoying and ineffective.
Most “bigger” offenders I found in the wild were medium sized local news sites and I really don’t want to cause them any legal trouble.
But as someone else said, it’s rather trivial to find. You really just need a browser with dev-tools.
You know you could just report them yourself right
Yes indeed. I just don’t want to. It’s a silly law.
So you don’t want to report a company for breaking the law? What have they ever done for you?
At least that shows what kind of person you are.
Aww you, stop it.
Most of these consent pop ups are designed to be insanely annoying to the point where you just click accept all on a long list of cookies for individual things and they are not even grouped
90% of the time^1 there’s at least a Cancel or Reject button. Sometimes you even get to pick which categories right there without it being two or three levels deep.
1 based on my highly scientific method of pulling numbers outa mah butt
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/
Handles most of this for you.
It’s sad that for some of the more obnoxious offenders where you need to individually opt out for each ad partner they carry it still may take the addon 30+ seconds. Imagine how long it would take to click everything manually. And that stuff is illegal by the way: rejecting everything must be just as easy as accepting everything. If I come across such a site I typically just avoid them from that point forward.
it’s illegal, there should be a “continue without accepting” link everytime, and in the selection of choice, all non essential should be disabled, but yeah, there’s still some website not playing the game correctly, hopefully UE will give sanction at some point?
If anyone is interested in a good read about the active changes coming to Cookie Law in the future: https://www.itpro.com/network-internet/web-browser/369894/the-cookie-law-is-finally-crumbling-good-riddance
Wasn’t a good read for me. A boring intro and then some speculation about possible new laws in the future, and Google Topics API mayybe making cookies obsolete.
Security theater.
EU, can you just make that shit go away? I am so goddamn tired of clicking cookie dialogs I could puke. kthxbye
Check out this add on that automatically decline data tracking popups https://addons.mozilla.org/sv-SE/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/
Ok
I forgot the link, lol.
50% seems conservative lol