• Ethanice
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    622 years ago

    My programming training relied on other creators who were not compensated.

    • Ech
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      122 years ago

      Humans using past work to improve, iterate, and further contribute themselves is not the same as a program throwing any and all art into the machine learning blender to regurgitate “art” whenever its button is pushed. Not only does it not add anything to the progress of art, it erases the identity of the past it consumed, all for the blind pursuit of profit.

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        Oh yeah tell me who invented the word ‘regurgitate’ without googling it. Cause the its historical identity is important right?

        Or how bout who first created the internet?

        Its ok if you dont know, this is how humans work, on the backs of giants

        • Ech
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          42 years ago

          Me not knowing everything doesn’t mean it isn’t known or knowable. Also, there’s a difference between things naturally falling into obscurity over time and context being removed forcefully.

          • @[email protected]
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            52 years ago

            And then there’s when its too difficult to upkeep them, exactly like how you can’t know everything.

            We probably ain’t gonna stop innovation, so we mine as well roll with it (especially when its doing a great job redistributing previously expensive assets)

            • Ech
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              22 years ago

              If it’s “too difficult” to manage, that may be a sign it shouldn’t just be let loose without critique. Also, innovation is not inherently good and “rolling with it” is just negligent.

              • Echo Dot
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                22 years ago

                It’s too difficult for you to manage not for it to manage. Keep up.

                • Ech
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                  22 years ago

                  Does meandering into other’s conversations and arbitrarily insulting people make you feel better about yourself?

                  • Echo Dot
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                    22 years ago

                    I don’t know if you understand how this website works but you’re not on private IMs

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      Were they in public forums and sites like stack overflow and GitHub where they wanted people to use and share their code?

      • Armok: God of Blood
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        Stable Diffusion uses a dataset from Common Crawl, which pulled art from public websites that allowed them to do so. DeviantArt and ArtStation allowed this, without exception, until recently.

      • Echo Dot
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        22 years ago

        Where did the AI companies get their code from? Is scraped from the likes of stack overflow and GitHub.

        They don’t have the proprietary code that is used to run companies because it’s proprietary and it’s never been on a public forum available for download.

    • Franzia
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      82 years ago

      I imagine creators who… released their work for free, and/or open source?

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        So you’re saying that it’s reasonable for him to have learned by observing content other people posted for the general internet to view?

        • Franzia
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          42 years ago

          When we’re talking about instructional content and source code, yeah. Visual art online follows a different paradigm.