If governments can go after child porn, then they can go after the websites generating it and people distributing it.
I’m sort of sick about services that can generate whatever bullshit people ask of them with zero oversight and control, specially when it involves deepfakes. When deepfakes become real enough, societies will just become a race towards distributing the deepfakes that serve whatever passes as the prejudices of the times, and people will eat it up.
It already happens in societies without deepfakes, and even the people who disagree with the mainstream still adopt their perception of things towards the prejudices present in the media of their society that they don’t really become aware off until they try living outside of it for a while.
Deepfakes will become like steroids for creating bubbles of ideology once it is able to cross the uncanny valley territory.
This stuff can be run locally. Its not something that can be stopped by just going after some service providing it. It may make it slightly less convenient to access, but if anyone wants to access it it’ll be available. Pandora’s box has been opened and it can’t be closed.
Sure, it’s illegal. They can’t do anything about it unless you do something else wrong though. I wish they could just magically detect where that content was, but they need a search warrant to find it. Talking about stopping this software will lead to nothing, but sharing this content (real or generated) is where attention should be focused.
The goal isn’t to stop deepfakes of random people. Its to limit AI access to regular people so it can be horded by select groups of people. Using threats against children to stir up the masses is the oldest play in history. The upper crust needs to make laws against how the rest of us use these tools.
It’s almost like people are the problem and will use any excuse to do what they want. So yeah, let’s ban technology, even though as you said people find ways to be shitty anyway, because after all, won’t somebody think of the children?
Yeah, people are the root cause of almost all problems that people have to deal with.
And we’ve been dealing with them for a long time and one way to deal with them is to develop norms and rules as a society (which at some point we decided to enshrine into laws).
So no, it’s not that we need to “ban technology”. But a good first step is to say “hey, if you generate porn of someone in your class and distribute it to others in your school then that’s a pretty shitty thing to do”. Another good step is probably to try to get some consensus on that statement. And if enough people agree with this, then we can start thinking of putting some actual rules behind it.
Societies have been able to handle these kinds of nuances for many different topics for a very long time. So stop pretending that it’s all just “oh, you all just want to ban the new stuff”. It might take a while to get it all worked out and some steps along the way will almost certainly be missteps, but it’s not like this always ends badly.
Pretty sure some places do ban carrying weapons like swords and machetes in public. Another thing I’m also sick is people who act like there’s no middle ground or precedent or possibility of nuance by making gross caricatures of things.
If governments can go after child porn, then they can go after the websites generating it and people distributing it.
I’m sort of sick about services that can generate whatever bullshit people ask of them with zero oversight and control, specially when it involves deepfakes. When deepfakes become real enough, societies will just become a race towards distributing the deepfakes that serve whatever passes as the prejudices of the times, and people will eat it up.
It already happens in societies without deepfakes, and even the people who disagree with the mainstream still adopt their perception of things towards the prejudices present in the media of their society that they don’t really become aware off until they try living outside of it for a while.
Deepfakes will become like steroids for creating bubbles of ideology once it is able to cross the uncanny valley territory.
This stuff can be run locally. Its not something that can be stopped by just going after some service providing it. It may make it slightly less convenient to access, but if anyone wants to access it it’ll be available. Pandora’s box has been opened and it can’t be closed.
You can also have your hard drive loaded with child porn locally, and it wouldn’t be any less illegal.
Sure, it’s illegal. They can’t do anything about it unless you do something else wrong though. I wish they could just magically detect where that content was, but they need a search warrant to find it. Talking about stopping this software will lead to nothing, but sharing this content (real or generated) is where attention should be focused.
The goal isn’t to stop deepfakes of random people. Its to limit AI access to regular people so it can be horded by select groups of people. Using threats against children to stir up the masses is the oldest play in history. The upper crust needs to make laws against how the rest of us use these tools.
It’s almost like people are the problem and will use any excuse to do what they want. So yeah, let’s ban technology, even though as you said people find ways to be shitty anyway, because after all, won’t somebody think of the children?
DRM and IP laws are basically bans on technology. There would not be any system of law if your logic was taken to the extreme. Things can be done.
Of course they can be, that wasn’t the point. Drm and ip law are not examples to be held up as things to imitation though
Yeah, people are the root cause of almost all problems that people have to deal with.
And we’ve been dealing with them for a long time and one way to deal with them is to develop norms and rules as a society (which at some point we decided to enshrine into laws).
So no, it’s not that we need to “ban technology”. But a good first step is to say “hey, if you generate porn of someone in your class and distribute it to others in your school then that’s a pretty shitty thing to do”. Another good step is probably to try to get some consensus on that statement. And if enough people agree with this, then we can start thinking of putting some actual rules behind it.
Societies have been able to handle these kinds of nuances for many different topics for a very long time. So stop pretending that it’s all just “oh, you all just want to ban the new stuff”. It might take a while to get it all worked out and some steps along the way will almost certainly be missteps, but it’s not like this always ends badly.
Let’s ban knives because people stab each other.
Ban photoshop!
Before you can operate any AI you will need a license and inform the government what you intend to do develop with it.
British moment.
I’m from Britain, I have shit loads of knives.
Pretty sure some places do ban carrying weapons like swords and machetes in public. Another thing I’m also sick is people who act like there’s no middle ground or precedent or possibility of nuance by making gross caricatures of things.