If anything ever happens to Gabe such that he can’t run the company, that’s the day I’m immediately downloading and backing up my entire steam library to a hard drive.
I used to tell myself this and gog even used this as marketing with the “French Monk” incident.
But over the years? I don’t see the point. If I am going to replay Stranglehold again but don’t want to wait for a re-release/re-buy it, it is just as easy to pirate it. Since I am going to need the crack to get past the lack of steam (which is totally not drm…) and probably a few patches anyway.
People have been trained to say that because that is how people decided to accept it when other DRM models were horrifically invasive (and didn’t look dissimilar on paper…)
Steam IS digital rights management. You authenticate with Valve, they confirm your account has access to the digitam media (the game), and provide a download if you do. After that, you can do whatever you want with it. That is almost exactly the Stardock “goo” model.
Steam ALSO has an extra layer of drm on top that developers can optionally use that will prevent you from launching the game outside of steam.
You can treat it like buying a CD (the first download) and being able to get another CD anytime for free from the store by verifying your identity and the extra DRM being the online check for the authenticity of the CD?
A lot of games don’t require Steam’s DRM, you quit Steam and launch through the Steam directory and it still works. I haven’t tried it, but I’m pretty sure I can copy that game to a computer with no internet access and no Steam client and it’ll work. I haven’t done that though, I’ve only done it when I forgot my kids were playing on my account on another computer and wanted to play a game.
A lot of games don’t work this way, but a lot do. Try it for yourself.
I believe it holds true for some single player games as well. I seem to remember Half-Life 2 not wanting to launch without Steam present, same for some other Source games. That really might not be the case though, I’m curious to do more testing… Either way, I watch enough Linux gaming on ARM SBCs (check out MicroLinux and LeePSPComputer on YouTube), can I see them using Goldberg from time to time to get games running with no Steam
Even then. If steam actually locks out out of your games, then I bet hacked will quickly put more effort to sidestep the drm and make that more easily accessible.
If anything ever happens to Gabe such that he can’t run the company, that’s the day I’m immediately downloading and backing up my entire steam library to a hard drive.
I used to tell myself this and gog even used this as marketing with the “French Monk” incident.
But over the years? I don’t see the point. If I am going to replay Stranglehold again but don’t want to wait for a re-release/re-buy it, it is just as easy to pirate it. Since I am going to need the crack to get past the lack of steam (which is totally not drm…) and probably a few patches anyway.
AFAIK steam has optional drm. If the devs dont use it you can play the games without steam. I think it says on the store page if it’s drm-free
People have been trained to say that because that is how people decided to accept it when other DRM models were horrifically invasive (and didn’t look dissimilar on paper…)
Steam IS digital rights management. You authenticate with Valve, they confirm your account has access to the digitam media (the game), and provide a download if you do. After that, you can do whatever you want with it. That is almost exactly the Stardock “goo” model.
Steam ALSO has an extra layer of drm on top that developers can optionally use that will prevent you from launching the game outside of steam.
You can treat it like buying a CD (the first download) and being able to get another CD anytime for free from the store by verifying your identity and the extra DRM being the online check for the authenticity of the CD?
Wouldn’t those games be locked up through steams DRM?
Yarr. Want some crack, kid? Harr.
Some games from Steam can still be used without Steam’s DRM. It’s a little difficult to pull it off, but it can be done
A lot of games don’t require Steam’s DRM, you quit Steam and launch through the Steam directory and it still works. I haven’t tried it, but I’m pretty sure I can copy that game to a computer with no internet access and no Steam client and it’ll work. I haven’t done that though, I’ve only done it when I forgot my kids were playing on my account on another computer and wanted to play a game.
A lot of games don’t work this way, but a lot do. Try it for yourself.
You’d need something like the Goldberg Steam Emulator, since a lot of games rely on services and APIs that Steam provides
Looks like it’s for MP? I almost never play MP, so maybe that’s why I haven’t run into it.
Thanks for the correction. :)
I believe it holds true for some single player games as well. I seem to remember Half-Life 2 not wanting to launch without Steam present, same for some other Source games. That really might not be the case though, I’m curious to do more testing… Either way, I watch enough Linux gaming on ARM SBCs (check out MicroLinux and LeePSPComputer on YouTube), can I see them using Goldberg from time to time to get games running with no Steam
Even then. If steam actually locks out out of your games, then I bet hacked will quickly put more effort to sidestep the drm and make that more easily accessible.
Drm on Steam is optional. It’s up to the dev whether to include any or not.
However, if the game uses any steam features, like achievements, voice chat, leaderboards, etc., then those won’t work without steam.