The foreign minister called a 10-point blueprint promoted by Kyiv ‘not feasible’, and added that a UN proposal to revive the Ukraine grain deal would not work.
Speaking at a news conference at the United Nations on Saturday, the minister called a 10-point peace blueprint promoted by Kyiv “completely not feasible”.
Kyiv’s plan:
Energy security, with a focus on price restrictions on Russian energy resources
Restoring Ukraine’s territorial integrity and Russia reaffirming it according to the UN Charter
Withdrawal of Russian troops and the cessation of hostilities, the restoration of Ukraine’s state borders with Russia
Justice, including the establishment of a special tribunal to prosecute Russian war crimes
building security architecture in the Euro-Atlantic space, including guarantees for Ukraine.
What leverage does Ukraine think they have to institute such a blatantly pro-Ukraine peace resolution? Based on Ukraine’s proposed plan, you’d think they were at the sea of Azov and halfway to Moscow, rather than stuck in a few salients along the same frontline they were at a year ago.
The fact that Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin won’t leave, so Ukraine has to make them. This all fucking started when pussy Putin decided to be a little bitch. This whole war can end right now if Putin just fucks off and goes the fuck home.
That’s not the point. The point is whether Ukraine’s peace plan makes sense in the context of the current situation in Ukraine. It doesn’t, and frankly it’s an indication that Ukraine really doesn’t want peace right now because they dont think they have the leverage to demand a fair peace.
Russia is rapidly becoming a weak vassal state of China because of Ukraine. If that’s not leverage, I don’t know what is…the war is very stupid for Putin to continue.
Ukraine know well enough that if Putin gets anything from this war, the next one is just a few years away. If they were to ever give him the slightest bit of territory they’d get peace for a couple of years only. Why do people like you not understand this?
Then why have a peace blueprint in the first place? By your description, Ukraine has no reason whatsoever to ask for peace. Why propose a peace blueprint?
At this point the war is a stalemate. Given that, Ukraine’s requirements for peace are… well they don’t have the “war-score” to try for those options yet. TBH I don’t think they want peace without those requirements, and Russia isn’t beat enough to agree. So peace is just off the table for now. Which suggests it was never a serious offer anyway.
This was is absolutely not at a stalemate. Ukraine just wasted their offensive capability and all the weapons they received in an offensive that failed to accomplish anything. If people seriously think that Russia isn’t going to go on an offensive of their own with the 400k troops they assembled, they’re in for a big surprise.
Whoops! Russia has lost. The only question is how much more will it lose. Believe for that reason? the peace offer is probably 100% serious, though I guess Ukraine could be planning some kind of trick.
Well it’s not really a negotiation, it’s a country defending its borders. What do you expect, uh ok you can have half our country and some of our women?
Kyiv’s plan:
What leverage does Ukraine think they have to institute such a blatantly pro-Ukraine peace resolution? Based on Ukraine’s proposed plan, you’d think they were at the sea of Azov and halfway to Moscow, rather than stuck in a few salients along the same frontline they were at a year ago.
The fact that Putin invaded Ukraine. Putin won’t leave, so Ukraine has to make them. This all fucking started when pussy Putin decided to be a little bitch. This whole war can end right now if Putin just fucks off and goes the fuck home.
So… What leverage does Ukraine have to make that happen?
The destruction of the Russian army and economy.
Seems like the opposite is happening
Yes exactly, how dare a defending country propose a peace plan, the nerve of those Ukrainians wanting peace for Ukraine and fellow Ukrainians.
That’s not the point. The point is whether Ukraine’s peace plan makes sense in the context of the current situation in Ukraine. It doesn’t, and frankly it’s an indication that Ukraine really doesn’t want peace right now because they dont think they have the leverage to demand a fair peace.
Russia is rapidly becoming a weak vassal state of China because of Ukraine. If that’s not leverage, I don’t know what is…the war is very stupid for Putin to continue.
Ukraine know well enough that if Putin gets anything from this war, the next one is just a few years away. If they were to ever give him the slightest bit of territory they’d get peace for a couple of years only. Why do people like you not understand this?
Then why have a peace blueprint in the first place? By your description, Ukraine has no reason whatsoever to ask for peace. Why propose a peace blueprint?
What the hell is a “peace blueprint”? Your russian translator not working correctly?
The comment you replied to also answers your question. If that answer isn’t satisfactory, please spell out why.
At this point the war is a stalemate. Given that, Ukraine’s requirements for peace are… well they don’t have the “war-score” to try for those options yet. TBH I don’t think they want peace without those requirements, and Russia isn’t beat enough to agree. So peace is just off the table for now. Which suggests it was never a serious offer anyway.
This was is absolutely not at a stalemate. Ukraine just wasted their offensive capability and all the weapons they received in an offensive that failed to accomplish anything. If people seriously think that Russia isn’t going to go on an offensive of their own with the 400k troops they assembled, they’re in for a big surprise.
Ukraine did nothing of those things. Your addiction to Putin propaganda is just showing.
Putin propagandists must’ve infiltrated the highest echelons of liberal western media, because here’s what they’ve been saying
Your utter lack of understanding of the subject you’re opining on is just showing.
Whoops! Russia has lost. The only question is how much more will it lose. Believe for that reason? the peace offer is probably 100% serious, though I guess Ukraine could be planning some kind of trick.
Well it’s not really a negotiation, it’s a country defending its borders. What do you expect, uh ok you can have half our country and some of our women?
That includes Crimea, apparently. Good luck with that.