Inspired by a question I saw a while back, is it possible to make my data/online presence useless/undesirable to companies to purchase?

  • pezmaker
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    2 years ago

    This is just my opinion, but I don’t think so. I love the thought and wish there was, though. I think no matter what you do, it’s still information about a potential user/customer and still tells someone looking at it about you. “Oh, we have information on about 4% of the population that wants to actively subvert our data analytics.”. Obviously that’s made up, I didn’t bother trying to even guess what a potentially realistic number might be.

    Again in my opinion, the only way to provide no value to data analytics is to not be a data point, and good luck with that. Best I’ve been trying to do is disable targeted ads anywhere I can, reset my identifier ids regularly on things like android tv where I can, and try to blast cookies anywhere possible. I don’t know if it even makes a difference or just makes me feel better

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Its super unpopular on Reddit and even less popular on here but… Have my data, i dont give a fuck.

      What are you going to find out? I’m a straight white man approaching middle-age. I’m into DIY, cars that were cool 20 years ago, music that was cool 20 years ago, cooking on my bbq and trying desperately to avoid becoming old AND fat. I’m wearing New Balance runners and cargo shorts RIGHT NOW. I’ve become a complete caricature of a “Dad”.

      You think you can find some embarrassing shit with my porn history? Nope, Ill tell you what my jam is for free. I dont care.

      I’m already tighter with my money than a dolphins asshole. Put the prices up, I just wont buy it. I’m on a playthrough of a 22yo videogame on a pc I built with second hand parts because fuck paying $130 for a brand new AAA title.

      What are “they” going to mine from me?

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        This is the answer. Clarity and frugality. It doesn’t matter that they can make accurate predictions of your interests if you simply never click.

        • @[email protected]
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          62 years ago

          The expression “a fool and his money will soon be parted” or a variation of that was first published in 1573.

          “A foole & his money, be soone at debate: which after with sorow, repents him to late.”

          If you cant go on facebook without buying some T-shirt for $40 because some targeted add knows you’re all about Pickle Rick right now. The problem isnt targeted advertisement.

        • sour
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          42 years ago

          they wouldn’t spend millions on ads if people were immune to them

      • RandomStickman
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        12 years ago

        The thing is what is valuable or not is up to you. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean they don’t want it. What’s perfectly legal and mundane today can be illegal tomorrow.

          • RandomStickman
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            02 years ago

            There are a lot of good advice given to me that I didn’t take so I’m not coming from a holier than thou place. I know all the amazing benifits of regularly working out and yet I’m still a lazy bum.

            The only difference is I don’t go on the internet replying to posts on working out about how much I don’t give a shit about my health, picking fights with strangers.

      • pezmaker
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        42 years ago

        You basically described the other half of me right here. I waffle back and forth between your view and trying to do something about it. I go back to feeling it’s futile and doesn’t matter anyway, before getting fed up with targeted ads again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          I’m aware of it, thats how I fight back.

          Ive needed new day to day runners for months, the inner heel is shredded and the soles have very little tread but I havent seen anything I like on a decent sale yet. I know the prices on most of the shit I want and on all the shit I need.

          Now my facebook regularly shoves adds for shoes at me 365 days a year. The last pair of new all purpose runners/training shoes I bought retailed for $150 - $200, I saw a targeted advertisement for 25% off and I clicked on it and I got a pair thats usually $160 for $120 did they win or did I win?

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            I’d say they did, nobody actively advertises a product they don’t want to sell, unless it’s some type of loss leader.

            Of course, you got cheap shoes out of it, so perhaps you both won?

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        I’m already tighter with my money than a dolphins asshole.

        Very nicely put :-)

        But still an illusion. You are still a true and well adapted consumer, connected to all your pipes in The Matrix.

        Saying that you are tight is equal to saying that you feel powerless, because all your money=power is owned by somebody else.

        You are actually consuming. You are actually spending your money. You feel like you have no choice, but you have - if you only recognized it.

      • @[email protected]
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        2 years ago

        You’re thinking little picture, your data specifically isn’t worth anything. Do you really think these multi-billion dollar companies are investing these crazy resources into data to see your porn history or sell you a different brand of toothpaste?

        Your data with everyone else’s data is worth a lot because they can use it to manipulate and control society. The Cambridge Anyltica scandal was a proof of concept… and you are not impervious to it. Some of us don’t want to participate in fueling that machine, but congrats on bringing yourself to not care about it I guess.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          In the 1960s Alka Seltzer was in poor shape financially, they came up with a new slogan “Plop Plop, Fizz Fizz” because although 1 tablet was generally considered to be a sufficient dose, 2 is more. Its more effective and it sells twice as many.

          In the 1920sa meat packing company wanted to sell more bacon, so they hired Edward Bernays a marketing exec. He asked his agencies doctor if a heartier breakfast could make people healthier, when he said yes the asked him to write to 5000 other physicians 4500 of them agreed in principal that yes, a more substantial breakfast of which bacon could be a part could make people overall healthier. The marketing company leveraged peoples trust of doctors to pound them full of salt and saturated fat.

          People all of a sudden love to act like manipulating people came along with Facebook and we were in some fantastic consumer utopia before. Nope. Its just more of the same shit, just new vectors.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          I’m not thinking small, I’m thinking macro.

          You stop 100 people in the street and ask them what steps they have taken to prevent their data being collected, you will get 99 blank stares. My data is worthless because theres billions of people who just dont care, they take polls, they call into radio shows, they answer those facebook “I bet you cant name 5 words without the letter E” clickbait idiocy shares. They click on “20 things you wont believe about” links, they genuinely believe that if you complete the survey you will be sent a $1000 Costco giftcard emails. Your average idiot doesnt need their data mined, they cant wait to give it to them.