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Public transport in Vilnius, where the NATO summit is currently taking place. "While you are waiting for this bus, Ukraine is waiting for F-16s."

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Public transport in Vilnius, where the NATO summit is currently taking place. "While you are waiting for this bus, Ukraine is waiting for F-16s."

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  • SomeDude
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    -7•2 years ago

    I understand the sentiment, but it’s no coincidence that those who are loudest to demand are also those with the least to give. When you’re the one doing the donating, it’s much more difficult and complicated.

    • @[email protected]
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      https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

      Please look at the baltic states, we dont want to be near russia ever again

      https://app.23degrees.io/view/x67vE7NsM3NeQu7z-atlas-slideshow_v4-atlantic/fY83zKIZpbLi3ll5-choro-ukraine-aid-tracker-final-data

      Direct link to map

      • @[email protected]
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        -4•2 years ago

        The Baltics can send troops to Ukraine if they’re actually afraid that they’re next.

        • Toni Aittoniemi
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          @SolanumChillEse They are NATO members, just reminding you about that small detail.

          • @[email protected]
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            -3•2 years ago

            And? NATO is a defensive alliance. There’s nothing stopping them from going in.

            The Baltics are just perfectly content to let Ukrainians die if it kills some Russians as well. Not sure why Ukrainians have to die if there is an actual fear of Russia advancing further than Ukraine. They’re not a meat shield for Europe. The Baltics should actually nut up if they believe even half the shit they’re saying about Russian expansionism.

        • @[email protected]
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          2•2 years ago

          Can you just google before giving this kind of opinion, NATO members cant go to war if other members do not agree. Sending people to fight would be the same as going to war.

          • @[email protected]
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            -2•2 years ago

            That’s not how NATO works. So maybe you should try googling a little harder. Otherwise Germany and France would have been in Iraq. NATO is a defensive alliance. You can send troops to Ukraine. Literally nothing is stopping you if you believe it’s a matter of national security in the future.

            • @[email protected]
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              You soud like a real professional, you should lead a nation or two.

              • @[email protected]
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                -1•2 years ago

                I at least know how NATO fundamentally functions before popping off about it online.

                • @[email protected]
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                  So if you are so well educated, why do you think we are not sending troops? Please enlighten me with your knowledge.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    0•2 years ago

                    Because no one actually believes Russia has ambitions outside of Ukraine. And if they actually do believe that and don’t want to send their own troops in, it’s absolutely shameful and cynical to be using Ukrainians as their human shields.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    because russia has nukes, and sending troops usually requires a declaration of war.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      5•2 years ago

      Counterpoint, Ukranians are donating their blood.

      • @[email protected]
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        1•2 years ago

        For their own land

        • @[email protected]OP
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          Russia has said repeatedly on state television that they wouldn’t stop with Ukraine.

          • @[email protected]
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            Who is this “Russia” person?

            • @[email protected]OP
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              The mouthpieces of Russia.*

              • @[email protected]
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                Meaning? Who exactly? Politicians? Media? Individual people?

                • @[email protected]OP
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                  D) All of the above.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    -1•2 years ago

                    🤨

      • @[email protected]
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        -1•2 years ago

        Some very unwillingly I might add.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          1•2 years ago

          Do you think Ukraine wanted to be invaded?

      • LanternEverywhere
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        That’s… not a counterpoint.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          It’s a contrasting argument. I didn’t say they’re wrong. That’s a counterpoint.

    • @[email protected]
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      12•2 years ago

      The Baltic states and Poland have donated more than their fair share

      • SomeDude
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        0•2 years ago

        Then they should donate some F16’s.

    • @[email protected]
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      -2•2 years ago

      Yeah it’s strange to see advertising like this on public buses for arming a country and essentially putting politics of warfare on buses so openly.

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