That’s implying trans women are less stable and easier to hurt because they are trans. That’s transphobic. Assuming cis women don’t get hurt by misgendering is sexist at best.
You think you’re so damn clever for appropriating the inclusive folks’ argument and trying to throw it back at them, but you really aren’t. We can all see you for the dishonest concern troll that you are.
I just find it unsettling that those comments only seems to care about the trans. And also I don’t find it helpful to recite again and again “you’re unstable and easy to hurt” to someone. I think they want to be treated normally.
I’m not endorsing what PsychedSy is saying (esp in the replies), but I am calling you out for saying that being aware of differing needs of trans people is transphobic.
That’s fair. There is something uncomfortable about saying that trans women are on average more unstable. But I think that’s more about the word choice “unstable” where I would frame it more neutrally like “different needs”. I guess “unstable” sounds like it’s their fault/failing.
Homie I work in mental health and recognizing a trigger is not a force of systemic oppression, it’s a courtesy. Pretending everything is hunky dory and no one has differing needs or experiences is the “i dont see color” equivalent of gender. why would cis women even have that trigger??
I’m not saying it doesnt, even in my original post I said they aren’t “AS” hurt. Why not try giving a “sir” to 100 trans women and 100 cis women and see how the reactions differ? The way I understand it, you’re saying there wont be any difference in reaction. That’s naive. It’s a trigger! Just like how I can get uncomfortable when someone talks about s.assault but it isn’t a trigger for me. If I’m in a group session with people recovering from trauma, I’m going to be very careful talking about SA but if I’m with colleagues I might speak more directly.
That’s implying trans women are less stable and easier to hurt because they are trans. That’s transphobic. Assuming cis women don’t get hurt by misgendering is sexist at best.
You think you’re so damn clever for appropriating the inclusive folks’ argument and trying to throw it back at them, but you really aren’t. We can all see you for the dishonest concern troll that you are.
I just find it unsettling that those comments only seems to care about the trans. And also I don’t find it helpful to recite again and again “you’re unstable and easy to hurt” to someone. I think they want to be treated normally.
I’m not endorsing what PsychedSy is saying (esp in the replies), but I am calling you out for saying that being aware of differing needs of trans people is transphobic.
Being aware is different than stating it out loud in public. And the over generalization is just something I must point out.
That’s fair. There is something uncomfortable about saying that trans women are on average more unstable. But I think that’s more about the word choice “unstable” where I would frame it more neutrally like “different needs”. I guess “unstable” sounds like it’s their fault/failing.
Yeah, no shit: that’s because cis people are cared about by default. Nobody needs you white-knighting for the already-advantaged.
But we both know you already knew that. I’m continuing to not buy your dishonest concern-trolling.
ok? You’re free to not buy what you don’t want to
Homie I work in mental health and recognizing a trigger is not a force of systemic oppression, it’s a courtesy. Pretending everything is hunky dory and no one has differing needs or experiences is the “i dont see color” equivalent of gender. why would cis women even have that trigger??
try talking to some ciswomen and find out if misgendering hurts. spoiler - it does.
edit - fwiw, i keep hearing that lemmy is friendlier than reddit. this doesn’t align with my experience so far, it’s the same hateful shit as always.
I’m not saying it doesnt, even in my original post I said they aren’t “AS” hurt. Why not try giving a “sir” to 100 trans women and 100 cis women and see how the reactions differ? The way I understand it, you’re saying there wont be any difference in reaction. That’s naive. It’s a trigger! Just like how I can get uncomfortable when someone talks about s.assault but it isn’t a trigger for me. If I’m in a group session with people recovering from trauma, I’m going to be very careful talking about SA but if I’m with colleagues I might speak more directly.
Let me help.
Trans women are (on average) less stable and easier to hurt.
We done here?