My retired parents live with me. I went ahead and put a PiHole on our home wifi. A day later my mother was literally complaining that she couldn’t click on ads on facebook. I told her those are ads and they track her and she says “well everyone likes to use the internet how they like to use it… can you put it back the old way? I want to look at these shoes”. Can’t fucking win.
I know it’s rare, but there have been times I intentionally clicked on an ad - if it genuinely seemed like a unique or useful product I had some interest in.
I imagine the fake-social-post type of ads are worth blocking though since it’s based in dishonesty and deception.
Some shops I only used once still send me their written newsletters and I don’t mind checking them if they do them entertaining, or about some niche products, even if I don’t consider buying them at all. I miss well-designed full-page print ads in magazines, or just those with a catchy imagery\wording. Now these all feel like a vintage, premium product, akin to vinyl records, if compared to what garbage web serves today. Such a weird thing to be nostalgic about, but I hope oldschool advertisers\smm persons feel it on their end too.
The ads on Facebook (and many other sites) are served from the same site as the actual content. So if you try to block ads with pihole it will stop the website from loading any posts.
My wife turns off the WiFi on her phone to avoid the pihole. She does this so she can watch the ads in her games to get an extra life or whatever. You’ll never win on that front and I won’t either.
I get so pissed off when I try to play sudoku on the bus and it forces me to watch 30 seconds of ads between each game. And then during the game I have to ignore the flashing banner ad at the bottom of the screen.
The thing is with a small app ads pay f all compared to the ongoing development costs. $100usd a year for Apple developer license, recent Mac and time spent developing it.
I also really don’t like ads, but I think what’s lately been bothering me more is every short form video that exists has subtitles added to the middle of the video. I can’t even look at the videos because I hate getting distracted by the unnecessary text in my face. Like just let me watch your video, I don’t need you to spoon feed me the words too.
but this means that she would see the ads but not being able to click? I don’t get it. They should had just disappeared, no? Or was she complaining that she wasn’t seeing the ads?
No. Google search results still show sponsored links. But if you then click on them it breaks. Same thing for FB. The links are served from Facebook.Com and so they are not flagged as ads.
So she is likely getting exactly what she searched for and then it breaks after clicking on it
Good point, I think I’ve just mentally suppressed the search result add and didn’t think about them at all.
I’m surprised about the FB ads though, some newspapers over here tried the same and serve ads from the main domain… After two-three days the filter maintainers figured out how to block then as well.
The ads still appear in the facebook feed but clicking them results in a “this site could not be found” or similar error, is how I understood it to work. I know the PiHole basically makes it so the routes from “whateveradwebsite.com” end up not resolving to an IP address. I’m not sure how FB is serving them; so the text/image content might be coming from an FB server and the link is just an ad URL with a bunch of tracking info on it.
I got a lot of complaints from family, too. Especially because I block Meta. I just let them bitch and I tell them things like “those ads are broken because of malware” which isn’t entirely untrue.
I do when it is advertising something I hate. Publishers get dollars for clicks, pennies for impressions. That way I force someone I dislike to give money to someone I like.
I use adnauseum on my computer so it blocks the ads, but also sends a request simulating a click to the ad network. Based on average CPM, I’ve cost advertisers like $300 so far.
That’s because it’s built on top of uBlock. If you click on the extension it even has the uBlock logo. It’s literally just uBlock except it clicks on ads in the background. It even tells you how much projected money you cost them for clicking their shitty ads. And the websites gets paid. Only the advertisers get shafted.
Interesting. But wouldn’t that still decrease my privacy? Advertisers still won’t know which ads I’m interested in, but they will know what sites I visit and can still build a profile from that data.
Some people care more about fucking advertisers than privacy, as long as they don’t have to suffer through the ads themselves. But yeah, blocking is more private than fake clicking.
“I’ll try to fix it. Now that I put it in taking it down brings the Internet down. Sorry, let me think how to fix this”
And literally put up excuses until they get used to it. I’m sorry but they made you do stuff you didn’t enjoy for your own good while telling white lies, it’s time for payback.
Spot on. I was incredulous when they told me they each sent their cheek swabs in to the “free to be me”, the population tracking group 🌊 👁️a. Now I understand that that same company’s entire database is on the dark 🕸️.
After I set up the pi, I got its MAC address. I used this to set a static IP address in my router settings. This is important to make sure the pi keeps the same IP at all times. Then, also in my router settings, I set the DNS server to be the pi’s static IP address.
After all that was done, I just plugged the pi into a dedicated power supply and rebooted the router.
My retired parents live with me. I went ahead and put a PiHole on our home wifi. A day later my mother was literally complaining that she couldn’t click on ads on facebook. I told her those are ads and they track her and she says “well everyone likes to use the internet how they like to use it… can you put it back the old way? I want to look at these shoes”. Can’t fucking win.
Would url cleaner help in this case?
I know it’s rare, but there have been times I intentionally clicked on an ad - if it genuinely seemed like a unique or useful product I had some interest in.
I imagine the fake-social-post type of ads are worth blocking though since it’s based in dishonesty and deception.
I block ads on all my devices, but I assume they’re scams by default when I do see them.
Some shops I only used once still send me their written newsletters and I don’t mind checking them if they do them entertaining, or about some niche products, even if I don’t consider buying them at all. I miss well-designed full-page print ads in magazines, or just those with a catchy imagery\wording. Now these all feel like a vintage, premium product, akin to vinyl records, if compared to what garbage web serves today. Such a weird thing to be nostalgic about, but I hope oldschool advertisers\smm persons feel it on their end too.
I get Royal Mint and Royal Mail news leaflets. I just like looking at pictures of stamps and coins lmao
How could she even see the Ad? I don’t use facebook btw.
The ads on Facebook (and many other sites) are served from the same site as the actual content. So if you try to block ads with pihole it will stop the website from loading any posts.
My wife turns off the WiFi on her phone to avoid the pihole. She does this so she can watch the ads in her games to get an extra life or whatever. You’ll never win on that front and I won’t either.
It’s a decent value to play the ad while you actually pay attention to the show you’re “watching” for 30 seconds.
You ever consider divorce? /S
Same. My wife gets mad that her ad emails won’t load on her phone. I’m like, hun, just delete them, we don’t have money anyway.
Wow. I never would have guessed that people would be upset that they couldn’t watch ads.
People defend what’s familiar, even if it’s shit
Oh my god, this statement hits too hard, especially relating to my wife and things like this. She’s very resistant to change.
I get so pissed off when I try to play sudoku on the bus and it forces me to watch 30 seconds of ads between each game. And then during the game I have to ignore the flashing banner ad at the bottom of the screen.
get a foss one like SUD💜KU by TheSunCat on F-droid
I recommend Airplane mode or getting this https://www.f-droid.org/packages/com.kaajjo.libresudoku
Simple games don’t need internet access. Can’t you block network connection for that app?
A better option even is getting something like what [email protected] suggested, or this other one https://f-droid.org/packages/org.moire.opensudoku/ or this other one https://f-droid.org/packages/org.secuso.privacyfriendlysudoku/
Just pay for a good offline sudoku app. It probably costs less than a cup of coffee. Then we’ll all be happier.
or get an open source, free and privacy friendly one from f-droid in case you haven’t tied your hands with an iphone
Then pay 99 fucking cents for the app.
If the ads annoy you enought to post online, but the app is good enough that you keep playing anyway, then pay the developer for their work.
I swear to God some people around here have heard the term FOSS and thought “I don’t have to pay for software, hur dur it’s free and writes itself!”
There’s TrackerControl.
Try RethinkDNS or NextDNS. They don’t require wifi to work.
Try this
Do you guys not use encrypted DNS or VPN while on mobile? I couldn’t deal with ads just because I’m off WiFi.
The thing is with a small app ads pay f all compared to the ongoing development costs. $100usd a year for Apple developer license, recent Mac and time spent developing it.
Lol at all of these comments coming up with ways to not pay someone $1 for a sudoku app.
I also really don’t like ads, but I think what’s lately been bothering me more is every short form video that exists has subtitles added to the middle of the video. I can’t even look at the videos because I hate getting distracted by the unnecessary text in my face. Like just let me watch your video, I don’t need you to spoon feed me the words too.
💢
but this means that she would see the ads but not being able to click? I don’t get it. They should had just disappeared, no? Or was she complaining that she wasn’t seeing the ads?
PiHole just blocks the DNS. Facebook serves ads from their own DNS so it’s not possible to block them in that way. Same with YouTube, I believe.
But if they click it, it usually ports you through a tracker link so they can track your clicks, and that’s easy enough to block.
I interpret it as she used to see add, they’re gone and she misses them.
No. Google search results still show sponsored links. But if you then click on them it breaks. Same thing for FB. The links are served from Facebook.Com and so they are not flagged as ads.
So she is likely getting exactly what she searched for and then it breaks after clicking on it
yeah you’re right actually. I always use it combined with a local browser adblock and didn’t think of that
My wife bitched at me for the same reason 🤣
Good point, I think I’ve just mentally suppressed the search result add and didn’t think about them at all.
I’m surprised about the FB ads though, some newspapers over here tried the same and serve ads from the main domain… After two-three days the filter maintainers figured out how to block then as well.
The ads still appear in the facebook feed but clicking them results in a “this site could not be found” or similar error, is how I understood it to work. I know the PiHole basically makes it so the routes from “whateveradwebsite.com” end up not resolving to an IP address. I’m not sure how FB is serving them; so the text/image content might be coming from an FB server and the link is just an ad URL with a bunch of tracking info on it.
yeah you’re right actually. I always use it combined with a local browser adblock and didn’t think of that
My dad’s the same way.
If you want to click on ads just install a mobile game
I got a lot of complaints from family, too. Especially because I block Meta. I just let them bitch and I tell them things like “those ads are broken because of malware” which isn’t entirely untrue.
People actually CLICK on ads??? Genuinely never had even an iota of desire to do that. I forgot it was even an option.
Boomers that aimlessly surf facebook. They’re still trying to figure out what the use-cases are for the internet thingy they pay $60 a month for.
I do when it is advertising something I hate. Publishers get dollars for clicks, pennies for impressions. That way I force someone I dislike to give money to someone I like.
I use adnauseum on my computer so it blocks the ads, but also sends a request simulating a click to the ad network. Based on average CPM, I’ve cost advertisers like $300 so far.
Is that a browser extension?
Yep. The developer recommends to run it in stead of rather than alongside uBlock Origin, though, which is a dealbreaker for me 🤷
That’s because it’s built on top of uBlock. If you click on the extension it even has the uBlock logo. It’s literally just uBlock except it clicks on ads in the background. It even tells you how much projected money you cost them for clicking their shitty ads. And the websites gets paid. Only the advertisers get shafted.
Honestly I’m astonished it’s not more popular.
So you’re saying that it does literally everything uBlock does AND fucks over advertisers?
If there’s an option to shaft specific sites run by people you dislike too, I’m in! 😄
I don’t think so, it can only click the ads you’re served, which you don’t control.
Yes but Google banned them from the extension store so if you’re using Chromium you need to sideload it.
Interesting. But wouldn’t that still decrease my privacy? Advertisers still won’t know which ads I’m interested in, but they will know what sites I visit and can still build a profile from that data.
Some people care more about fucking advertisers than privacy, as long as they don’t have to suffer through the ads themselves. But yeah, blocking is more private than fake clicking.
“I’ll try to fix it. Now that I put it in taking it down brings the Internet down. Sorry, let me think how to fix this”
And literally put up excuses until they get used to it. I’m sorry but they made you do stuff you didn’t enjoy for your own good while telling white lies, it’s time for payback.
When you were a kid and lived with your parents, did they have rules to protect you even if you didn’t always agree with them?
Their time was. Now it’s your time. You’re brought up in this world which is foreign to them. You know the the way clownworld works.
It is the ultimate boomerism to dismiss dangers they have no clue about in the face of those who have intimate knowledge.
They might look at shoes today, remedies for hereditary illnesses the next day. It’s all logged and connected to them and their family.
Everybody wants to do what they want in the way that they want. If you say you can’t win, then who is really the head of the household?
Spot on. I was incredulous when they told me they each sent their cheek swabs in to the “free to be me”, the population tracking group 🌊 👁️a. Now I understand that that same company’s entire database is on the dark 🕸️.
“my house my rules”
hopefully you have a mustache to twirl while you say it
As long as your legs are under my table, I make the calls.
Hi, butting in here, hope you don’t mind a question - is there a place to go with basic I instructions on how I can set this up too? Thanks!
Yeah for sure. I’m no expert by any means, but I can talk through what I did.
I used the instructions directly from their code repository: https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/#one-step-automated-install (I used option 1, the automated install). I did this on an old RPi2B that I had laying around.
After I set up the pi, I got its MAC address. I used this to set a static IP address in my router settings. This is important to make sure the pi keeps the same IP at all times. Then, also in my router settings, I set the DNS server to be the pi’s static IP address.
After all that was done, I just plugged the pi into a dedicated power supply and rebooted the router.
https://lukesingham.com/pi-hole/
Great aunt was talking about all of these anti-aging pills that she was going to get