I think the main issue is that “Wayland is the future” keeps happening every year, just like “this is finally the year of the Linux desktop” and “Brazil is finally ready for a first world economy” - we hear it every year, it keeps being postponed every year.
X11 development is dead so it really is just a matter of time before Wayland is the norm and you’ll be saying stuff like “back in my days we used X11 and we liked it!”
Well, yes, but it also lacked basic functionality. Forced software vsync regardless of what’s being displayed is what I’d expect from a 1997 graphics card driver programmed by 5 dudes and their nephew.
You could also list a bunch of insane stuff about X11. The security being hilariously bad, random tearing all the time, terrible multi-monitor support, terrible gesture support, etc.
Of course it matters. Maybe you didn’t know, but Wayland doesn’t exist in a vacuum, X11 is the other choice. How could you possibly think it doesn’t matter lmao
Most distros are already Wayland and have been for a while.
Obviously. You’re not a genius for figuring out X11 exists.
The point is, distros are migrating to Wayland as default and some to Wayland as the only option - so of course I’m listing issues with Wayland, and not bothering to list issues with X11 - the distro will be using Wayland, why the hell would I care about open issues on X11?
I think the main issue is that “Wayland is the future” keeps happening every year, just like “this is finally the year of the Linux desktop” and “Brazil is finally ready for a first world economy” - we hear it every year, it keeps being postponed every year.
X11 development is dead so it really is just a matter of time before Wayland is the norm and you’ll be saying stuff like “back in my days we used X11 and we liked it!”
Wayland is already the present for most Linux users.
Shit, it’s been enabled by default on Debian since 2019. Debian. The famously slow-moving distro.
Well, yes, but it also lacked basic functionality. Forced software vsync regardless of what’s being displayed is what I’d expect from a 1997 graphics card driver programmed by 5 dudes and their nephew.
You could also list a bunch of insane stuff about X11. The security being hilariously bad, random tearing all the time, terrible multi-monitor support, terrible gesture support, etc.
X11 lacks basic functionality.
Sure I could. But it doesn’t matter, as the entire topic at hand are distros migrating to Wayland.
Of course it matters. Maybe you didn’t know, but Wayland doesn’t exist in a vacuum, X11 is the other choice. How could you possibly think it doesn’t matter lmao
Most distros are already Wayland and have been for a while.
Obviously. You’re not a genius for figuring out X11 exists.
The point is, distros are migrating to Wayland as default and some to Wayland as the only option - so of course I’m listing issues with Wayland, and not bothering to list issues with X11 - the distro will be using Wayland, why the hell would I care about open issues on X11?
You should care about issues in X11 because you’ll be facing them if you don’t use Wayland. This isn’t a difficult concept.
Are you being purposely slow?
Distros announce they’ll migrate to Wayland, I complain this will bring about issues with Wayland that should be fixed.
Your reply is “but X11 also has issues!” yeah genius, congratulations. That’s irrelevant.
“Hey guys, I’m moving to Linux Mint, I found a little issue with Cinnamon can somebody help?”
“Well Windows Media Player has issues too! Why aren’t you mentioning those? You need to worry about Windows Media Player!!!”
This is you.