I think this guy gets it but is focusing in on “apart from all others.” Its an exclusive absolute statement that really shouldn’t be applied other than in a joking sense.
It’s ok. It requires a reading and comprehension level above 5th Grade so it can be difficult for some to understand subtle nuances and phrases such as “apart from” and “the”.
Churchill was a racist idiot and that’s still a dumb quote.
Democracy is a plane with 20 people on it. Nine vote not to crash it and eleven vote to fly it into a mountain, and that means everyone dies because democracy
Yeah, the problems with democracy are rarely solved by less democracy. It just turns into “Instead of many idiots voting to do something stupid, one idiot votes to do something stupid.”
That’s… precisely why the original quote said “democracy is the worst form of government”. It has fundamental flaws. But it’s still the better than everything else.
Churchill’s point is that stupid things can still happen in democracies, but no one has come up with a better alternative. What would you suggest as the better alternative? If you don’t have one, then you just helped prove Churchill’s point!
So the only way to get anything done is to do it against the will of at least some people? You’ve never been in a group where you agreed on a course of action together?
But if we made you running everything it would be perfect.
That’s the thing with anti-democracy sentiment the people who advocate for it always assume they, or someone who agrees with them on everything, is going to run things. No one imagines themselves in a slave society being a slave.
It’s a Churchill quote. https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/the-worst-form-of-government/?ssp=1&setlang=pt-PT&safesearch=moderate
Doesn’t make him right.
take a break
Go back to school dude, and this time stay awake during the lecture.
I did not learn that in any of my schooling lol
FTFY
Damn, you guys are pretentious as hell in this thread lmao
Expand your mind.
Churchill is saying that democracy is the best form of government in the quote. He is just saying it in a funny way.
I think that person gets it. Just that they are probably some tankie.
Read the quote again but slowly this time.
I think this guy gets it but is focusing in on “apart from all others.” Its an exclusive absolute statement that really shouldn’t be applied other than in a joking sense.
It’s ok. It requires a reading and comprehension level above 5th Grade so it can be difficult for some to understand subtle nuances and phrases such as “apart from” and “the”.
Churchill was a racist idiot and that’s still a dumb quote.
Democracy is a plane with 20 people on it. Nine vote not to crash it and eleven vote to fly it into a mountain, and that means everyone dies because democracy
No, nine vote to crash it, seven vote to go left and four vote to go right.
Crashing it is! Thanks, first past the post voting system.
So instead you choose authoritarianism: 20 people on a plan and one of them shoots the pilot, takes over, and crashes it. Everyone dies.
Yeah, the problems with democracy are rarely solved by less democracy. It just turns into “Instead of many idiots voting to do something stupid, one idiot votes to do something stupid.”
Love how you think that not only are there only two options, but that democracy isn’t also authoritarian. It’s just mob rule instead of an individual.
That’s… precisely why the original quote said “democracy is the worst form of government”. It has fundamental flaws. But it’s still the better than everything else.
Why don’t you enlighten us on the other options then? I’d love to hear it.
Think bigger. Fly the plane in circles, and demand the people give you whatever you want to occasionally land it and bring some supplies onboard.
Just don’t die of old age.
It’s more like,
and I’ve been through enough elections to see how we are all heading to a crash, every time.
Churchill’s point is that stupid things can still happen in democracies, but no one has come up with a better alternative. What would you suggest as the better alternative? If you don’t have one, then you just helped prove Churchill’s point!
Every human knows and has used a superior system from the time they first started playing with other people: Consensus.
…which is basically what democracy is, but systemitized such that it can be applied at scale.
If we had a consensus based government I wouldn’t have a fascist as a representative
There are more people than just you in your district
Yes and we should all agree on who is going to represent us. Otherwise the losing party is disenfranchised.
You’re not going to get unanimous approval for anything when your group size is several thousand people
So… A form of democracy?
Democracy is majority rule, and fuck whatever the minority wants.
Consensus is we don’t do anything unless we all agree.
So nothing gets done then.
Then you don’t do anything. Ok got it, 👍🏾
So the only way to get anything done is to do it against the will of at least some people? You’ve never been in a group where you agreed on a course of action together?
In a group… you mean a very limited setting where you can discuss directly with everyone and get direct feedback in real time from everyone?
How do you suggest that this might work on a large scale, with millions of people?
Edit: And if for example 10 million people somehow found consensus and then one guy is like “lmao no”, everything gets canned?
Are you…high???
Yes but also yes
Its as if my shoe suddenly decided to strike up a conversation
Your shoe has a pretty good knowledge of anarchism. You could learn a thing or two from it
…what do you think democracy is?
But if we made you running everything it would be perfect.
That’s the thing with anti-democracy sentiment the people who advocate for it always assume they, or someone who agrees with them on everything, is going to run things. No one imagines themselves in a slave society being a slave.