Voting is a means to change government policy without killing each other. Any arguement againest liberalism is an arguement for the use of warfare to change politics and all of the bloodshed that will be included. The vast majority of humans benefit from free and fair elections. Communism is authoritarian so not liberal. Any political party that wants to use democracy and voting to avoid bloodshed and have political change are liberal.
OP has a history of anti democratic rhetoric and repeatedly encourages violent changes in government. As long as the elections are free and fair we have no reason to use a violent revolution and cause the unnecessary massacre of innocents.
Liberals are not anti authoritarian lmao as an ideology liberalism upholds the capitalist state via state violence like the police and military, enforces borders violently, and lets people die violently instead of providing basic human necessities like housing and food and water. Liberalism ≠ democracy, liberalism = democracy for the bourgeoisie.
Elections cant be “free and fair” when the media and government are controlled by an economic class that needs to enforce homelessness and starvation as a threat to make their fake economy function.
“A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.”
Democratic/liberal governments are not perfect because nothing in life is, but everything you point out as a flaw in democratic/liberal governments are perpetuated even worse by authoritarian governments.
You complain about police violence? Look at russia and china for how bad authoritarian police violence is. You complain about liberal/democratic use of militaries, but please show me the powerful and benevolent authoritarian governments that have ever existed. You complain about the media being controlled by liberal elites, but authoritarians just change that to the people at the top of the state further limiting free speech. Your attacks on liberalism and democracy are nothing more than strawman arguements.
Name a single powerful country regardless of politics that doesn’t support everything in your post. Then try to split every powerful government by liberalism and authoritarianism to see who is worse.
Liberal = anti-authoritarian
Voting is a means to change government policy without killing each other. Any arguement againest liberalism is an arguement for the use of warfare to change politics and all of the bloodshed that will be included. The vast majority of humans benefit from free and fair elections. Communism is authoritarian so not liberal. Any political party that wants to use democracy and voting to avoid bloodshed and have political change are liberal.
OP has a history of anti democratic rhetoric and repeatedly encourages violent changes in government. As long as the elections are free and fair we have no reason to use a violent revolution and cause the unnecessary massacre of innocents.
That’s a lot of words to say “I’m a liberal.”
Troll says what?
Liberals are not anti authoritarian lmao as an ideology liberalism upholds the capitalist state via state violence like the police and military, enforces borders violently, and lets people die violently instead of providing basic human necessities like housing and food and water. Liberalism ≠ democracy, liberalism = democracy for the bourgeoisie.
Elections cant be “free and fair” when the media and government are controlled by an economic class that needs to enforce homelessness and starvation as a threat to make their fake economy function.
Definition of liberalism
“A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.”
Democratic/liberal governments are not perfect because nothing in life is, but everything you point out as a flaw in democratic/liberal governments are perpetuated even worse by authoritarian governments.
You complain about police violence? Look at russia and china for how bad authoritarian police violence is. You complain about liberal/democratic use of militaries, but please show me the powerful and benevolent authoritarian governments that have ever existed. You complain about the media being controlled by liberal elites, but authoritarians just change that to the people at the top of the state further limiting free speech. Your attacks on liberalism and democracy are nothing more than strawman arguements.
Why would you assume i dont think china and russia are capitalists? Of course they are, and their governments are filled with liberalism lol.
The fact that you think Russia and China are bastions of liberal ideas says volumes about your inability to comprehend the world.
You’re confusing rampant unchecked capitalism with liberalism. They are not the same.
They are the same thing in every modern context, name a single liberal party around the world that doesnt support everything in my post
Name a single powerful country regardless of politics that doesn’t support everything in your post. Then try to split every powerful government by liberalism and authoritarianism to see who is worse.