• @[email protected]
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    This is such a bullshit article. Yeah the NRA is a terrible organization and there are a lot of reasons to attack them. But attacking the educational, gun safety and shooting sports programs that they offer or fund is complete bullshit and is detrimental to the public good.

    This is like saying we shouldn’t offer driving classes because one day a student might get into an accident.

    Correlation is not causation.

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      92 years ago

      The problem is that the NRA also actively blocks things that will actually deal with the problem, like gun controls.

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        Gun control wasn’t the subject of the article nor was it what I posted about. Why are you trying to change the subject?

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          The NRA and school shootings are the subject of the article, and gun control is an effective solution to the latter that the NRA continuously tries to block via any means necessary.

          To use your example, it is like if those that trained people to drive also tried to block any sort of driving license program, believing that literally anyone should be allowed behind the steering wheel of a car.

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            72 years ago

            The article focuses on the funding of gun safety, marksmanship and 4A courses by the NRA. Which is arguably one of the better applications that the NRA supports. You are either terrible at English comprehension or more likely simping hard for the anti 2A crowd.

            Your analogy is terrible, US citizens have a 2A right to bear arms. This is written into the constitution. There is no such clause for a drivers license.

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              Really? You’re unable to find the correlation between this article, which talks about a school shooting, and the NRA, which has repeatedly resisted gun control efforts at every step of the way, to ridiculous degrees.

              Sure, the NRA offering gun safety lessons is laudable, but in the context of also being the single organisation most obstructive of gun law reform, even when gun laws as they currently stand make such incidents ridiculously easy to commit, it doesn’t exactly wash the blood off the NRA’s hands. It’s like lauding Hitler for building the autobahn avd ignoring all the other things he did.

              Your analogy is terrible, US citizens have a 2A right to bear arms.

              The US constitution dies not grant an unlimited and absolute right to bear arms. There are plenty of guns and other weaponry that you are not allowed to own as a civilian, and plenty of other restrictions such as red flag laws, and licensing programs such as open carry permits.

              Why would a general firearms license not fall under that purview?

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      192 years ago

      Interesting take

      Would it not be better to teach kids that handguns are unnecessary, and only owned by criminals and cowards?

      Or is that a bit too 21st century?

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          62 years ago

          Except for all the parts in the world that have proven it true. No, you should just keep your head in the sand and rely purely on hope that someone you know won’t be killed.

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              72 years ago

              Children shouldn’t be using guns.

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                  52 years ago

                  Young children shouldn’t be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home.

                  There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance.

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                    32 years ago

                    My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined.

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          102 years ago

          Guns are meant to kill at a distance without your opponent touching you or possibly even seeing you, they are fundamentally a cowardly weapon.

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            82 years ago

            Your perspective is incredibly narrow.

            Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons.

            Definitely all those black people with guns facing down the racists with guns at the Tulsa Race Massacre should’ve been brave and fought fisticuffs, 21st century style. /S (Yes I’m well aware their homes and businesses were burned to the ground despite attempts to defend themselves).

            The Black Panthers were just cowards. /S

            The trans folks at Tenacious Unicorn Ranch definitely were cowards for not facing bigots threatening to kill them with fists and harsh words. /S

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              Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons.

              As someone who lives outside of the US: it is nice. You guys should try it.

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              I’ve literally only ever seen a gun take a life that didn’t deserve it. How many home invaders have you personally staved off? You know this isn’t 1921 anymore, right?

              The gun culture in this country is toxic and you’re part of the problem spreading that bs to justify your own peace of mind. I’m sure you only need Jesus and your ar-15 to survive but the rest of us would like to go to the grocery store without worrying about the place being shot up by some nut job that picked up a rifle at the corner shop on a whim.

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            So you prefer it when people kill other people up close? That is somehow brave?

            You sound psychotic.

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              I’d rather they didn’t kill each other at all, it’s weird that you’re so defensive about being able to murder people easier.

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                92 years ago

                That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up.

                Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself.

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                  Lol, that isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You’re the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away.

                  Have fun with your guns. Coward.

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                    That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job.

                    You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A.

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            This would be a lovely take, if there weren’t so many other people running around with guns. Is it cowardly to want to protect yourself from the actual cowards?

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              Oh, you mean the cowards with guns? The guns that make it so easy to murder you or even schools full of children? You’re talking about those gun users specifically, right? Boy, it would be great if we could get some meaningful laws about that, huh.

          • @[email protected]
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            82 years ago

            The phrase “never bring a gun to a knife fight” is referring to intelligence not bravery.

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              22 years ago

              How about “idioms don’t dictate real life and people are dieing”, does that jive with you?

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        Every person should know how to safely handle a firearm. They don’t necessarily need to be expert shots, but they should know how to not accidentally shoot someone with one.

        I’m a liberal gun owner and I have a standing offer to all of my anti-gun friends to show them and their families how to handle firearms, and the NRA has some great resources for teaching him safety for kids.

        They’re an evil organization, but they do a few things right.

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        72 years ago

        Telling children that drugs are bad, just say no, and never teaching them any actual information really worked out great. Drugs are outright illegal for everyone, why didn’t that stop drugs?

        Let’s take that approach to something new that can be used to scare and divide people. Gun are bad, just say no. Make them all illegal. It’s not like there are 19 year old felons with full auto hand guns already all over YouTube and tiktok(that’s 3 federal crimes if you don’t realize).

        Keep people scared and divided. If they aren’t they might start focusing on things that would actually save us like Healthcare, housing, income, employment, stability that everyone can have on our age of abundance.

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        Why not both?

        Guns are a fact of life in the US. Kids will be exposed to them. For every child killed in a mass shooting there are many more accidentally killed due to unsafe handling.

        Ignoring this fact is the gun equivalent of “just say no.”

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        152 years ago

        What a bat shit insane take. 99.999% or more of guns are not used in crime. And how absolutely fucking ableist of you to assume everyone is physically capable of defending themself in hand to hand combat