But also, isn’t it pretty obvious that there’s a lot of large, heavy cargo that gets moved around inside cities that could not possibly be transported effectively by bicycle?
So when people say I have obviously no experience moving heavy things, my personal experience matters. But when it turns out I have that experience, it magically stops mattering? Plus I never said that my experience is of importance, that’s something infreq and Hyperreality brought up.
Ah, there it is: the Shroedinger’s cyclist. Every cyclist is simultaneously broke and privileged until the car-brain decides which is more convenient for his current argument!
Oh great, how many cargo bikes would we need to carry a pallet of milk cartons to the local grocery store? How many would we need to replace one truckload?
Doesn’t matter because you also need a refrigeration system to keep the milk from spoiling. Good luck putting that on a bike.
OK, so to carry the same payload as one standard reefer trailer… we’ll use the lightweight value of 49000 lbs (22226 kg)… we’ll only need… 111 refrigerated cargo bikes.
Oh yeah, that’s practical. That will definitely be a workable, scalable solution.
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You all are down voting facts? So sorry that reality doesn’t fit your fantasy.
Just to offer one possible alternative: cargo bikes/trikes are a thing.
Are you fucking kidding me? Have you ever had to transport anything jeavor or large in real life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra875fAOFKo
Lol, lightweight cargo 😁
Of course they haven’t. That’s something for the help or their parents to worry about.
TIL we never actually moved my girlfriend’s whole household by bike (and cart) when we moved in together.
Why is it that you think your anecdote can be broadly applied to all cargo transit needs?
Do you think a wind turbine could be carried by bicycle?
Ah yes, wind turbines which are famously delivered to locations in dense urban centers.
A fair point.
But also, isn’t it pretty obvious that there’s a lot of large, heavy cargo that gets moved around inside cities that could not possibly be transported effectively by bicycle?
So when people say I have obviously no experience moving heavy things, my personal experience matters. But when it turns out I have that experience, it magically stops mattering? Plus I never said that my experience is of importance, that’s something infreq and Hyperreality brought up.
No, the point is that an individual experience is not broadly applicable.
One sample is bad statistics.
Ah, there it is: the Shroedinger’s cyclist. Every cyclist is simultaneously broke and privileged until the car-brain decides which is more convenient for his current argument!
Oh great, how many cargo bikes would we need to carry a pallet of milk cartons to the local grocery store? How many would we need to replace one truckload?
Doesn’t matter because you also need a refrigeration system to keep the milk from spoiling. Good luck putting that on a bike.
Someone got lucky https://www.kleuster.com/en/produits/refrigerated-cargo-bike/
OK, so to carry the same payload as one standard reefer trailer… we’ll use the lightweight value of 49000 lbs (22226 kg)… we’ll only need… 111 refrigerated cargo bikes.
Oh yeah, that’s practical. That will definitely be a workable, scalable solution.
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You all are down voting facts? So sorry that reality doesn’t fit your fantasy.