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Doug Holland to THE POLICE [email protected]English • 2 years ago

Authorities knew Maine shooter was a threat but felt confronting him was unsafe, video shows

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Authorities knew Maine shooter was a threat but felt confronting him was unsafe, video shows

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Doug Holland to THE POLICE [email protected]English • 2 years ago
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The video documents a Sept. 16 call between Sagadahoc County Sheriff's Sgt. Aaron Skolfield and Army Reserve Capt. Jeremy Reamer.

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    Cowards.

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      21•2 years ago

      The thing is, they have no duty to stop him before he kills someone.

      • DarkGamer
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        Yup. Thanks, supreme court!

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        I know. My point still stands.

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        They have no duty to stop him even as he is killing someone

        • chaogomu
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          No duty, even after he’s killed a few people, and working to kill more.

          Maybe we should re-label mass shooters to something like “climate protesters”. Those are words that always receive a massive police response.

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        No legal* duty

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        They don’t appear to have any duties at all.

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          4•2 years ago

          Their only duties are administrative. Draw lines with chalk, collect evidence, fill out paperwork.

          The only person who can be trusted to defend your life is yourself, unfortunately.

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    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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