If you mean “capitalism+slavery”, then yes, this is known to cause problems, hence all the civil rights efforts since Renaissance to make citizens roughly equal (even cut aristocracy a bit) and every resident a citizen.
Just not allowing myself to behave like an envious little punk. I do see problems with the existing social systems, it’s just that being prevented from robbing those who have more is not a problem. It’s a very good design feature.
There’s no billionaire who didn’t steal from the hard work of others. Every billionaire is a scoundrel of some sort, a thug if you try to take their cash cow from them.
Billionaires have constantly stolen wages by not increasing wages in line with inflation for their employees. Most recent examples: Jeff Bezos, Fast food giants.
Dude obviously you are out of your league. Yes all profits are theft, you worked to make $100 profit for the company, they paid you $10, $90 is taken, it’s not hard. But even if you aren’t ready to learn about Marxism…
Walmart: Please, PLEASE defend the billionaires that own Wallmart…
#1 in stealing wages, yes, wage theft, actual theft. Please look it up. Even not considering Marxist ideas, just plain old theft of wages.
Their employees have to live on government handouts, IE: You are paying more in taxes because Wallmart won’t pay their employees a living wage… They’re stealing from you… Like, this isn’t hard.
Please use your brain. Bezos’ company bans their sellers from selling lower somewhere else, forcing a monopoly on low prices for Amazon. Those companies and people make less money… Like… C’mon, just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it’s not theft. Also wage theft, Amazon commits massive wage theft…
Google steals your data.
Apple bans companies from repairing their products.
Oil companies literally cause problems in the middle east in order to control gas prices…
CEOs are making TONS of money off of… stealing… war… propaganda…
All of this creates more profits, and takes more money from you or their employees. Literally takes no effort to look this up. You are being contrarian for no reason. Or you are deliberately creating propaganda, because even if you don’t believe in Marxism, billionaires are still, easily, obviously, objectively, stealing…
Yes all profits are theft, you worked to make $100 profit for the company, they paid you $10, $90 is taken, it’s not hard.
So paying for union membership is fine, but paying for company membership, where you can make money, is not?
If you don’t like the architecture of this with the owner and his employees, or many owners, look at cooperatives, a very old anarcho-syndicalist idea, which, believe me or not, does work. It’s not very popular, but cooperatives and things similar to them do exist. Like kibbutz in Israel (I’m sure there are more mundane examples).
I mean, it’s the same logic. Working as part of a system has different efficiency that working alone.
Walmart: Please, PLEASE defend the billionaires that own Wallmart… #1 in stealing wages, yes, wage theft, actual theft. Please look it up. Even not considering Marxist ideas, just plain old theft of wages. Their employees have to live on government handouts, IE: You are paying more in taxes because Wallmart won’t pay their employees a living wage… They’re stealing from you… Like, this isn’t hard.
So a company is not fulfilling its obligations systematically, does not get sued sufficiently bad to stop, and you are blaming capitalism, not the judicial system, not lawmakers?
C’mon, just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it’s not theft. Also wage theft, Amazon commits massive wage theft…
It is very illegal, just like what Microsoft has been doing for half the 90s. And maybe 10 or 20 years from now, when Amazon is not that strong, it’s going to lose a suit without real repercussions, just like Microsoft.
Only I don’t get how this is connected to capitalism. This actually (still being illegal, but being unlikely otherwise) utilizes trademark, patent and IP laws, which I’m against exactly because these are very notably not capitalist.
And plain power, which is not capitalist as well, it’s just a fact of life. Some enemies are orders of magnitude stronger than you. You can’t just vote for making them weaker and expect that they’ll magically just do that.
Same with Apple.
You are being contrarian for no reason.
That’s called the iterative process of improving oneself and the society around. I’m arguing so that we both could find and fix flaws in our worldview, only you are not even trying to do that, why?
Anyway, profits and competition and power and evil people exist, these are, again, facts of life. There’s no option to vote for ruling these out, and a vote can’t by itself make any radical change. So when you want something, consider how the balance of power would change, because that power won’t go away or be magically transferred to different people.
Powerful people can more effectively influence one center than many (that’s just logic and probability theory, nothing else). This means that more centralization means less checks on them, not the other way around. Many politicians promise this, but in reality the singular center never goes against power.
Not at all, just my parents, while not perfect, have taught me to work for myself and respect the rights of others and their independence.
As for you being envious, the existing system benefits you, you are not dying from hunger or doing unqualified labor under threat of a whip.
It’s not a system of distribution of some common good which fell from the sky and now has to be shared fairly. Nobody “feeds the 1%”, they use what they own.
I’d argue this guy probably had his original identity beaten out of him by his scumfuck parents and he resorted to adopting theirs to avoid violence from them, and that is why he thinks the way he does. And if true, he doesn’t really benefit from the system either, but is just a brainwashed victim of it.
I take solace in your downvotes that your opinions are unpopular and wrong and as such no one believes you. Look on the plus side, your brown nose covered in poo will protect you from the sun.
State prisons are not part of “capitalism”.
If you mean “capitalism+slavery”, then yes, this is known to cause problems, hence all the civil rights efforts since Renaissance to make citizens roughly equal (even cut aristocracy a bit) and every resident a citizen.
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Just not allowing myself to behave like an envious little punk. I do see problems with the existing social systems, it’s just that being prevented from robbing those who have more is not a problem. It’s a very good design feature.
There’s no billionaire who didn’t steal from the hard work of others. Every billionaire is a scoundrel of some sort, a thug if you try to take their cash cow from them.
Name a billionaire who has stolen from you or somebody you know and describe how.
Billionaires have constantly stolen wages by not increasing wages in line with inflation for their employees. Most recent examples: Jeff Bezos, Fast food giants.
Arguably almost all of them since they all seem to engage in some unethical behavior or another for profit.
A better question is to name which ones haven’t.
This should make it even easier for you to name one.
Dude obviously you are out of your league. Yes all profits are theft, you worked to make $100 profit for the company, they paid you $10, $90 is taken, it’s not hard. But even if you aren’t ready to learn about Marxism…
Walmart: Please, PLEASE defend the billionaires that own Wallmart… #1 in stealing wages, yes, wage theft, actual theft. Please look it up. Even not considering Marxist ideas, just plain old theft of wages. Their employees have to live on government handouts, IE: You are paying more in taxes because Wallmart won’t pay their employees a living wage… They’re stealing from you… Like, this isn’t hard.
Please use your brain. Bezos’ company bans their sellers from selling lower somewhere else, forcing a monopoly on low prices for Amazon. Those companies and people make less money… Like… C’mon, just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t mean it’s not theft. Also wage theft, Amazon commits massive wage theft…
Google steals your data.
Apple bans companies from repairing their products.
Oil companies literally cause problems in the middle east in order to control gas prices…
CEOs are making TONS of money off of… stealing… war… propaganda…
All of this creates more profits, and takes more money from you or their employees. Literally takes no effort to look this up. You are being contrarian for no reason. Or you are deliberately creating propaganda, because even if you don’t believe in Marxism, billionaires are still, easily, obviously, objectively, stealing…
So paying for union membership is fine, but paying for company membership, where you can make money, is not?
If you don’t like the architecture of this with the owner and his employees, or many owners, look at cooperatives, a very old anarcho-syndicalist idea, which, believe me or not, does work. It’s not very popular, but cooperatives and things similar to them do exist. Like kibbutz in Israel (I’m sure there are more mundane examples).
I mean, it’s the same logic. Working as part of a system has different efficiency that working alone.
So a company is not fulfilling its obligations systematically, does not get sued sufficiently bad to stop, and you are blaming capitalism, not the judicial system, not lawmakers?
It is very illegal, just like what Microsoft has been doing for half the 90s. And maybe 10 or 20 years from now, when Amazon is not that strong, it’s going to lose a suit without real repercussions, just like Microsoft.
Only I don’t get how this is connected to capitalism. This actually (still being illegal, but being unlikely otherwise) utilizes trademark, patent and IP laws, which I’m against exactly because these are very notably not capitalist.
And plain power, which is not capitalist as well, it’s just a fact of life. Some enemies are orders of magnitude stronger than you. You can’t just vote for making them weaker and expect that they’ll magically just do that.
Same with Apple.
That’s called the iterative process of improving oneself and the society around. I’m arguing so that we both could find and fix flaws in our worldview, only you are not even trying to do that, why?
Anyway, profits and competition and power and evil people exist, these are, again, facts of life. There’s no option to vote for ruling these out, and a vote can’t by itself make any radical change. So when you want something, consider how the balance of power would change, because that power won’t go away or be magically transferred to different people.
Powerful people can more effectively influence one center than many (that’s just logic and probability theory, nothing else). This means that more centralization means less checks on them, not the other way around. Many politicians promise this, but in reality the singular center never goes against power.
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I prefer giving the boot. Sadly no communist is verbose enough in person to take it.
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Nobody can take seriously a person not remembering what they are even arguing against, like you.
I’ve said that prison labor is not connected to capitalism in any way. I haven’t said prison labor is nice. That’s a reminder.
You are so consumed by dumb envy that you can’t even remember what the exact subject of the conversation is.
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Not at all, just my parents, while not perfect, have taught me to work for myself and respect the rights of others and their independence.
As for you being envious, the existing system benefits you, you are not dying from hunger or doing unqualified labor under threat of a whip.
It’s not a system of distribution of some common good which fell from the sky and now has to be shared fairly. Nobody “feeds the 1%”, they use what they own.
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I’d argue this guy probably had his original identity beaten out of him by his scumfuck parents and he resorted to adopting theirs to avoid violence from them, and that is why he thinks the way he does. And if true, he doesn’t really benefit from the system either, but is just a brainwashed victim of it.
WTF? You think everybody not running around with leftist bullshit is rich?
Oh, wow.
I happen to live in that “rest of the world”, LOL.
I change all the time with experience, that’s why I despise those who don’t and instead whine how somebody has better toys than them.
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I’ve met many leftists, but this line is still funny. All I can say.
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Everybody in America does labor under the threat of a whip unless they’re an unemployed adult hanging out in the boonies somewhere.
I take solace in your downvotes that your opinions are unpopular and wrong and as such no one believes you. Look on the plus side, your brown nose covered in poo will protect you from the sun.
Irrelevant obviously.
Doesn’t follow from downvotes. It’s obvious, again. Votes don’t support statements.
Irrelevant, unless my goal was to make someone believe into something. It wasn’t.
Also there’s no poo anywhere around me and it’s raining, which is quite pleasant after such heat. But thank you for your good wishes.