The difference between your average liberal and a tankie is that liberals will openly say that there were no WMDs in Iraq and that the invasion was a mistake.
Find a tankie that would ever actually criticize the CCP the same way.
They only say that because enough time has passed. When it was current they were all on board and were calling everyone who disagreed ‘Saddam Lovers’. Just like how in 20 years they’ll all be saying that they never believed the Uyghur genocides claims, but how dare those tankies doubt [insert current atrocity propaganda here]!
The Iraq War inspired mass protests immediately that set records in several American cities, but sure.
You are correct though that the narrative has shifted with time. So I take it that this has also happened in China, such that someone could organize a protest on the Tiananmen anniversary, right?
Also, just realized that you said that the invasion was a ‘mistake’, not a deliberate lie. Is there a single accusation that the West has leveled against its enemies that you don’t automatically believe?
I mean, yes, Bush lied to the American public. This is not particularly controversial.
And given that the original point was the difference between the ability and willingness of liberals to criticize our own governments relative to tankies, Tiananmen is a perfectly relevant topic, though I’m hardly surprised that you’d clearly like to avoid it. And if randomly bringing up supposedly unrelated topics is something to avoid, might I ask why you brought up WMDs in Iraq in a thread about the Uyghers in the first place?
This conversation is specifically about the Uyghur genocide conspiracy theory.
Weird, I thought it was about Iraq!
The fact that the Iraqi invasion was deeply controversial at the time, and this controversy was able to be loudly expressed, stands in very stark contrast to how controversial topics in China’s recent history can be discussed. This is the main point I’m trying to make. I see you follow the lead of the Chinese government by simply refusing to discuss it, and I understand that talking about things that challenge your world view can be uncomfortable, so I’ll do you a favor by allowing this conversation to end.
I would just point out, though, that if I had responded to your initial comment about WMDs in Iraq with “Nope, not doing it,” you’d probably call me a coward or something.
The difference between your average liberal and a tankie is that liberals will openly say that there were no WMDs in Iraq and that the invasion was a mistake.
But liberals will still fall in line and support the current war as they always do, only after the fact they reasses their position.
Find a tankie that would ever actually criticize the CCP the same way.
The biggest problem is the number likely being exaggerated.
The real amount of Uyghurs in concentration camps is completely unknown but guestimated around 30.000 to 100.000.
The 1 million number is by a single source called Radio Free Asia which does not offer any evidence.
The American way to spread propaganda is to take something that is true, and then heavily exaggerate it without providing evidence for the most extreme claims.
Love reading the tankies in this thread just salivating at the chance to claim it’s not actually real
The Organization of Islamic Cooperation are tankies? Muslims are tankies?
If you’re not white you’re a tankie.
Based if true
Found those WMDs in Iraq yet?
The difference between your average liberal and a tankie is that liberals will openly say that there were no WMDs in Iraq and that the invasion was a mistake.
Find a tankie that would ever actually criticize the CCP the same way.
They only say that because enough time has passed. When it was current they were all on board and were calling everyone who disagreed ‘Saddam Lovers’. Just like how in 20 years they’ll all be saying that they never believed the Uyghur genocides claims, but how dare those tankies doubt [insert current atrocity propaganda here]!
The Iraq War inspired mass protests immediately that set records in several American cities, but sure.
You are correct though that the narrative has shifted with time. So I take it that this has also happened in China, such that someone could organize a protest on the Tiananmen anniversary, right?
What a desperate attempt to change the topic.
Also, just realized that you said that the invasion was a ‘mistake’, not a deliberate lie. Is there a single accusation that the West has leveled against its enemies that you don’t automatically believe?
I mean, yes, Bush lied to the American public. This is not particularly controversial.
And given that the original point was the difference between the ability and willingness of liberals to criticize our own governments relative to tankies, Tiananmen is a perfectly relevant topic, though I’m hardly surprised that you’d clearly like to avoid it. And if randomly bringing up supposedly unrelated topics is something to avoid, might I ask why you brought up WMDs in Iraq in a thread about the Uyghers in the first place?
Sir, this is a
wendy’s(checks title) thread about the ongoing genocide that Israel is perpetrating in GazaIt was at the time. And there are still liberals who disagree
Nope, not doing it. This conversation is specifically about the Uyghur genocide conspiracy theory.
Weird, I thought it was about Iraq!
The fact that the Iraqi invasion was deeply controversial at the time, and this controversy was able to be loudly expressed, stands in very stark contrast to how controversial topics in China’s recent history can be discussed. This is the main point I’m trying to make. I see you follow the lead of the Chinese government by simply refusing to discuss it, and I understand that talking about things that challenge your world view can be uncomfortable, so I’ll do you a favor by allowing this conversation to end.
I would just point out, though, that if I had responded to your initial comment about WMDs in Iraq with “Nope, not doing it,” you’d probably call me a coward or something.
I love how you chuds are still seething about the fact that your color revolution failed.
But liberals will still fall in line and support the current war as they always do, only after the fact they reasses their position.
I didn’t know the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation were a tankie group. Does that mean all Muslims are tankies?
The biggest problem is the number likely being exaggerated.
The real amount of Uyghurs in concentration camps is completely unknown but guestimated around 30.000 to 100.000.
The 1 million number is by a single source called Radio Free Asia which does not offer any evidence.
The American way to spread propaganda is to take something that is true, and then heavily exaggerate it without providing evidence for the most extreme claims.
A good video on the Uyghur Genocide here
It’s likely to be higher than that. Even the proportion of imprisoned Black people in America is higher than that.
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A good video on it here
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Love reading the radlibs in this thread just coping with nothing substantial to say when their views are challanged
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Just shitty mods that delete anyone that dares to call out the fucking tankies infesting this thread. But ya no corporate censorship at least 🙄
Fuck china btw
How many people died in the Uyghur genocide?