An exceptionally well explained rant that I find myself in total agreement with.

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    This argument that open source somehow needs to exploit users and blatantly skirt the intent of the GPL because profit must be taken from it is absurd.

    Why is it assumed that they weren’t perfectly sustainable before and why is it the end users responsibility to bear the burden of making their business model viable if they weren’t? Being unprofitable doesn’t excuse you from following the terms of your software license.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Red Hat weren’t ever unprofitable under the old model. This is just the classic killing of the goose that lays the golden eggs. They’ll get a short term boost in profit until customers start moving to competitors.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Except they’re aren’t violating the GPL at all. Their source code is still available to subscribers (and it isn’t behind a paywall because you can get a free license) and available to the public via CentOS Stream. Their code also goes into upstream projects as well.

      The GPL exists so that companies can’t just take the code and contribute nothing back. But that isn’t what Redhat is doing here so I find your accusations that Redhat is exploiting users to be very hyperbolic.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Except that Redhat is trying to literally stop one of the four essential freedoms - the freedom to redistribute. Arguably they might actually be breaking the terms of the GPL.

        • Alex
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          12 years ago

          I don’t think they are. You can distribute the corresponding source for your binaries. You just won’t get updates to the binaries (and their corresponding source) afterwards.

      • @[email protected]
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        02 years ago

        Whether or not they’re violating the letter of the GPL is entirely separate from whether they’re violating its intent. The former is debatable but the latter is absolutely happening here.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 years ago

          What do you think the intent of the GPL is though? Genuinely curious, this isn’t meant as a retort or anything.

          • @[email protected]
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            02 years ago

            … the freedom to study, change, and redistribute the software you use.

            They are specifically and explicitly trying to limit your freedom with regards to redistribution by making it a violation of their EULA to do so.

            • @[email protected]
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              02 years ago

              But the code is also available in CentOS Stream, which is basically the “git master” of RHEL, and that you can freely redistribute.

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      No, RHEL “exploits” large companies and the public sector that require a lot of compliance certificates and long term service guarantees for the software they procure. If Red Hat doesn’t collect this money, it goes into the pockets of people with much lower upstream contributions than Red Hat.

      The regular user doesn’t need RHEL. Fedora or any other non-enterprise Linux distribution is perfectily fine and they will directly benefit from the contribution that Red Hat finances through their enterprise sales.