You don’t think a 2nd Trump administration would fund a genocide? Why? What about Trump says to you, “Oh yeah, this guy would definitely put a stop to the mass-murder of brown people”?
Oh god oh no Trump might also continue genocide? Wow that would be… Exactly the same… How terrible!
“Oh yeah, this guy would definitely put a stop to the mass-murder of brown people”?
Nobody is saying they think he’ll stop it dickhead. Literally nobody in this thread has said that. But “Trump will be genocidal too” is not the defence of your guy that you seem to think it is.
I can fathom that’s what they want, but you can’t always get what you want, especially if what you want is neither a Democrat or Republican to win a state-wide election in the United States. Wanting something does not change the reality of the situation.
Where did I shame anyone? I’ve been trying to be polite, I haven’t thrown an insult once. I’ve extended more civility than has been granted to me. Though half of it seems to be residual anger at Reddit.
If you asked any of us to vote for genocide in person you would likely end up with spit on your face and maybe a fight on your hands. Don’t ask people to vote for mass murder if you want people to like you.
Oh. “Chapo Trap House is aligned with the dirtbag left, a style of contentious left-wing political discourse that eschews civility in favor of casual, blunt, often vulgar expression.”
Guess I gotta get used to looking all this shit up while browsing. No more browsing Lemmy on my phone. No wonder Egon thought I was doing a bit.
Yeah I was hoping they’d respond with that, because the retort is of course “well in that case you can rest easy, because I will not be voting for Trump a lot more than I won’t be voting for Biden, thus giving Biden several votes”
Regardless of who they vote for, there are only two possible outcomes to the election, unless one of the nominees dies before then. Either Trump will win, or Biden will win. If you want Biden to lose, that only happens if Trump wins.
And the way you get votes is by appealing to voters, not by scaremongering about the other candidate. That tactic especially doesn’t work when you platform is the same.
First-past-the-post voting incentivizes voting against the candidate you don’t want to win by voting for the candidate most likely to beat him. So scaremongering about the other candidate is a strategy often used to great effect. Trump used scaremongering against Hillary in 2016. Trump’s using scaremongering against Biden now. George H.W. Bush famously used scaremongering about crime to win.
Also their platforms are not the same. Trump has Project 2025.
And then you go on to cite the 2016 election.
Are you doing a bit? Do you not recall the pied-piper strategy the Dems tried? You keep referring to “successful” examples, but they’re all republicans lol.
I thought you were the one who said the Democratic and Republican platforms are the same. Now you’re noticing that the examples of winning with scaremongering are all Republican wins. Are you doing a bit?
??? Their platforms are the same, but the republicans actually want the platform enacted. Saying “vote for me or you’ll get the republican” doesn’t work when you have the same policy. Saying “vote for me or you’ll get the democrat” works for the republican, because republican voters think democrats are demons wearing skin suits.
What is it with you people and pretending you don’t understand basic textual communication? Do you think your sad attempts at gotchas aren’t noticed? Go back to Reddit and argue with a bot
The fascist are always going to have been scary rhing that make liberals fascism more palletable and swallowable, even if its in someways worse than the big scary republican bs. Lets just fuck off that whole thing completely
If genocide Joe wants to win he has to make a compelling case that he is going to be meaningfully better than Trump on the issues that matters to voters.
Until now he has been working hard to make the opposite case.
If enough voters suddenly developed a conscience and rejected genocide, voted third party, neither genocidal monster would win. But sure, be mad at the people who oppose genocide instead of all the little Nazis who support genocide.
I fail to see how the outcome of an election could affect a nation’s politics in a long-term meaningful way. Why are you so worried about an election? It’s a popularity contest for morons. Go buy a gun and learn to make some real change in the world.
Buy a gun for your son right away sir
Shake his hand like a man and let him play sir
Let his little mind expand, place a weapon in his hand
For the skills he learns today will someday pay, sir
Oh man, remember when it wasn’t going to be an issue because trump was going to jail any minute now we totally promise™?
How many daddy’s of the week have to be wrong before you stop believing he will he held to any account? You really think somehow, jack smith is going to do anything? Best bet is it will be another wet fart like Mueller or whatever the last daddy of the week was.
You’re absolutely right. I hereby refuse to vote Trump because I believe he would fund genocide. Do you pledge to not vote Biden because he funds genocide?
hypothetical genocide under Trump vs. actual genocide occurring right now under Biden
The correct answer is C, none of the above. Two bourgeois genocidal freaks are our only options, and you don’t seem to see that as an extremely urgent problem
I think Trump will fund a genocide. I know Biden is funding a genocide. I also know Trump was funding that same genocide four years ago when he was in office. When he moved the embassy just to appeal to the zionist monsters. Track record proven.
Also given that a lot of people are finally awakening to the reality experienced by Palestinians we can safely conclude that Obama, Bush, all the rest going back 75 years were funding a genocide. You really think you can shame us into supporting a system that is so demonstrably rotten to the core on some sort of lesser-evilism bullshit? The time to be fed up with this shit was decades ago. But it’s better late than never. That’s a real sentiment of lesser fucking evil.
An assailant is beating your family to death with a bat. But if you stop him, maybe another guy will come along and pick up the bat, and maybe he might be hypothetically stronger, so I guess you better cheer on the guy currently beating your family to death instead.
There are arguments as to why a Trump admin could also be theoretically better in terms (less competent, more easily swayed, might actually see opposition), but it doesn’t matter. Because if you’re playing hypothetical games at this point about a fucking genocide you’re just trying to excuse the fact you’re fine with it. And if that’s the case, fuck you.
If you’re not in a swing state then you could throw your support behind your preferred third-party candidate, or write in the name of literally any person you can think of who would cut off aid to Israel.
But not voting just says you’re OK with whomever the other voters pick for president. It says you don’t see a meaningful difference between Biden and Trump. And if you honestly don’t, OK, you’re allowed to think that. But in November, unless one of them dies, either Biden is going to win the election, or Trump is. The want to discourage people from voting against them. If you’re not voting you’re neutral so they don’t care as much.
From a pragmatic point it would be easier for the propaganda apparatus to explain away a smaller than usual turnout (voters are lazy, etc.) than a larger than usual this party vote.
Either way they’ll do their best to bury it though.
That’s why I advocate “undervoting”. Go vote, cast a ballot, but leave the spots with no good options blank. It shows that you aren’t a “lazy” voter, actually voted, and chose the hidden “none of the above” option.
This is great lol I’m surprised I haven’t seen this sooner. Can anyone (with more technical ability than myself) do a mashup of the opposite? I fear it’ll look scarily similar to Biff from Back to the Future.
I’m not ok with anyone being president because the USA shouldn’t exist and there’s no way of expressing this sentiment through voting for president. The president is an administrator of a death machine directed by capital. There’s no option for me to vote how I truly want nor do I believe calling for specific votes would be an effective route to secure my goal of nullifying the constitution and installing a communist government. Instead of worrying about the particulars of which genocidal fascist gets into office, I’ll instead direct my efforts towards dismantling the USA in its entirety.
You don’t think a 2nd Trump administration would fund a genocide? Why? What about Trump says to you, “Oh yeah, this guy would definitely put a stop to the mass-murder of brown people”?
I heard Trump has plans to send the US Navy to ensure the genocide continues, on top of funding Israel too!
Oh god oh no Trump might also continue genocide? Wow that would be… Exactly the same… How terrible!
Nobody is saying they think he’ll stop it dickhead. Literally nobody in this thread has said that. But “Trump will be genocidal too” is not the defence of your guy that you seem to think it is.
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You really that stupid that you can’t fathom that people would want neither to win?
I can fathom that’s what they want, but you can’t always get what you want, especially if what you want is neither a Democrat or Republican to win a state-wide election in the United States. Wanting something does not change the reality of the situation.
How about standing up to your corrupt government instead of meekly taking part in the farce it has set up to control you?
Are you that cowardly that revolution isn’t even an option to you?
very true! another good example of that: you want us to support genocide joe but the reality of the situation is we never will.
You don’t live in a real democracy. You can’t shame anyone here into voting in a sham election with two openly genocidal parties. Go back to
Where did I shame anyone? I’ve been trying to be polite, I haven’t thrown an insult once. I’ve extended more civility than has been granted to me. Though half of it seems to be residual anger at Reddit.
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If you asked any of us to vote for genocide in person you would likely end up with spit on your face and maybe a fight on your hands. Don’t ask people to vote for mass murder if you want people to like you.
Oh. “Chapo Trap House is aligned with the dirtbag left, a style of contentious left-wing political discourse that eschews civility in favor of casual, blunt, often vulgar expression.”
Guess I gotta get used to looking all this shit up while browsing. No more browsing Lemmy on my phone. No wonder Egon thought I was doing a bit.
You’re asking people to vote for a genocidal warmonger, lmao that’s the insult genius, and it’s beyond a breach of basic civility
Go back to reddit liberal
What about Biden winning is preferable? Same policies, at least trump is funny. Trump will probably radicalize more liberals too.
Go back to reddit
Point me to the person who said they would vote for Trump. People aren’t willing to vote for a genocide.
Ohhhh I’ve got this one!
“Any vote not for Biden or not voting at all is a vote for trump”
Yeah I was hoping they’d respond with that, because the retort is of course “well in that case you can rest easy, because I will not be voting for Trump a lot more than I won’t be voting for Biden, thus giving Biden several votes”
Why do you think they’re gonna vote for Trump? Clearly he is choosing not to vote for a presidential candidate who supports genocide.
Regardless of who they vote for, there are only two possible outcomes to the election, unless one of the nominees dies before then. Either Trump will win, or Biden will win. If you want Biden to lose, that only happens if Trump wins.
And the way you get votes is by appealing to voters, not by scaremongering about the other candidate. That tactic especially doesn’t work when you platform is the same.
First-past-the-post voting incentivizes voting against the candidate you don’t want to win by voting for the candidate most likely to beat him. So scaremongering about the other candidate is a strategy often used to great effect. Trump used scaremongering against Hillary in 2016. Trump’s using scaremongering against Biden now. George H.W. Bush famously used scaremongering about crime to win.
Also their platforms are not the same. Trump has Project 2025.
And then you go on to cite the 2016 election.
Are you doing a bit? Do you not recall the pied-piper strategy the Dems tried? You keep referring to “successful” examples, but they’re all republicans lol.
I thought you were the one who said the Democratic and Republican platforms are the same. Now you’re noticing that the examples of winning with scaremongering are all Republican wins. Are you doing a bit?
??? Their platforms are the same, but the republicans actually want the platform enacted. Saying “vote for me or you’ll get the republican” doesn’t work when you have the same policy. Saying “vote for me or you’ll get the democrat” works for the republican, because republican voters think democrats are demons wearing skin suits.
What is it with you people and pretending you don’t understand basic textual communication? Do you think your sad attempts at gotchas aren’t noticed? Go back to Reddit and argue with a bot
The fascist are always going to have been scary rhing that make liberals fascism more palletable and swallowable, even if its in someways worse than the big scary republican bs. Lets just fuck off that whole thing completely
If genocide Joe wants to win he has to make a compelling case that he is going to be meaningfully better than Trump on the issues that matters to voters.
Until now he has been working hard to make the opposite case.
I want Biden to lose.
I also want Trump yo lose.
That’s why I’m not voting for either of them.
If enough voters suddenly developed a conscience and rejected genocide, voted third party, neither genocidal monster would win. But sure, be mad at the people who oppose genocide instead of all the little Nazis who support genocide.
I fail to see how the outcome of an election could affect a nation’s politics in a long-term meaningful way. Why are you so worried about an election? It’s a popularity contest for morons. Go buy a gun and learn to make some real change in the world.
This needs to be site tag line.
Made me think of this song
Buy a gun for your son right away sir
Shake his hand like a man and let him play sir
Let his little mind expand, place a weapon in his hand
For the skills he learns today will someday pay, sir
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Oh man, remember when it wasn’t going to be an issue because trump was going to jail any minute now we totally promise™?
How many daddy’s of the week have to be wrong before you stop believing he will he held to any account? You really think somehow, jack smith is going to do anything? Best bet is it will be another wet fart like Mueller or whatever the last daddy of the week was.
reddit ass loser
So then I guess Biden should do a better job to get those voters.
You’re absolutely right. I hereby refuse to vote Trump because I believe he would fund genocide. Do you pledge to not vote Biden because he funds genocide?
I think if you tell me “the other guy would fund a genocide” while your guy is funding a genocide, I’m gonna tell you to shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
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I haven’t seen you around for a while. Glad to see you’re still doing well, love this bit, you’re wonderful
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hypothetical genocide under Trump vs. actual genocide occurring right now under Biden
The correct answer is C, none of the above. Two bourgeois genocidal freaks are our only options, and you don’t seem to see that as an extremely urgent problem
I know a second Biden term will fund a genocide because that’s what the first Biden term is doing.
I think Trump will fund a genocide. I know Biden is funding a genocide. I also know Trump was funding that same genocide four years ago when he was in office. When he moved the embassy just to appeal to the zionist monsters. Track record proven.
Also given that a lot of people are finally awakening to the reality experienced by Palestinians we can safely conclude that Obama, Bush, all the rest going back 75 years were funding a genocide. You really think you can shame us into supporting a system that is so demonstrably rotten to the core on some sort of lesser-evilism bullshit? The time to be fed up with this shit was decades ago. But it’s better late than never. That’s a real sentiment of lesser fucking evil.
An assailant is beating your family to death with a bat. But if you stop him, maybe another guy will come along and pick up the bat, and maybe he might be hypothetically stronger, so I guess you better cheer on the guy currently beating your family to death instead.
There are arguments as to why a Trump admin could also be theoretically better in terms (less competent, more easily swayed, might actually see opposition), but it doesn’t matter. Because if you’re playing hypothetical games at this point about a fucking genocide you’re just trying to excuse the fact you’re fine with it. And if that’s the case, fuck you.
Would liberals support and back a Trump genocide, unlike the Biden genocide that IS currently happening
snoo pfp
Snoo pfp should be banned on sight
Ever wonder if youll be able to vote for a guy you aren’t positive will fund a genocide?
Ever get tired of advocating for something so very disrurbing? It must be ennervating, right? You thought Trump would be gone after the last time.
Ever ask yourself why you ask for so little?
Is it the pragmatic choice to make yourself so small?
Go back to Reddit
My money is that they were banned from reddit for being a weird pervert
banned?? not awarded and shipped a physical statuette like the mod of r/jailbait?
I’m sorry, fucking WHAT?
username was violentacrez, you can look it up if you want to pollute your mind
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Not really.
If you’re not in a swing state then you could throw your support behind your preferred third-party candidate, or write in the name of literally any person you can think of who would cut off aid to Israel.
But not voting just says you’re OK with whomever the other voters pick for president. It says you don’t see a meaningful difference between Biden and Trump. And if you honestly don’t, OK, you’re allowed to think that. But in November, unless one of them dies, either Biden is going to win the election, or Trump is. The want to discourage people from voting against them. If you’re not voting you’re neutral so they don’t care as much.
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From a pragmatic point it would be easier for the propaganda apparatus to explain away a smaller than usual turnout (voters are lazy, etc.) than a larger than usual this party vote.
Either way they’ll do their best to bury it though.
That’s why I advocate “undervoting”. Go vote, cast a ballot, but leave the spots with no good options blank. It shows that you aren’t a “lazy” voter, actually voted, and chose the hidden “none of the above” option.
There isn’t one
This is great lol I’m surprised I haven’t seen this sooner. Can anyone (with more technical ability than myself) do a mashup of the opposite? I fear it’ll look scarily similar to Biff from Back to the Future.
We do have
and 
, which are face mash-ups of every republican and democrat senator, iirc.
Trump doesn’t need to be combined with anyone to look like Biff
I’m not ok with anyone being president because the USA shouldn’t exist and there’s no way of expressing this sentiment through voting for president. The president is an administrator of a death machine directed by capital. There’s no option for me to vote how I truly want nor do I believe calling for specific votes would be an effective route to secure my goal of nullifying the constitution and installing a communist government. Instead of worrying about the particulars of which genocidal fascist gets into office, I’ll instead direct my efforts towards dismantling the USA in its entirety.
We are saying both candidates are fascists and something more drastic than voting needs to happen
So your pitch is we should vote for Biden because he’ll do the same genocide that Trump will do?