@mormund I used to store them in a paper notebook, away from the prying eyes of the malware. Now I also have them in a password manager for easy access in case I need them, if the account supports 2FA TOTP.
Not backup your PW manager’s database + key file in the same location
(That would decrease security, x1 data breach would allow them to easily brute force your PW DB since they’ll have the key)
Not go with a PW manager that does not allow you to choose a location where you desire to backup to
(Seen plenty of mainstream PW managers getting data breached by now, so going with a cloud, which is not solely used for PW managers, has an advantage imo, since they tend to be less targeted by hackers)
I’ve been happily using KeeWeb + Keepass2Android for years now:
You could use a USB drive that you only ever plug in to open the password manager. It’s not the most secure option but it’s a bit better than no key file at all.
Can’t use it with a phone though. To be honest, I think just having a password manager gives you protection against 99% of the attack surface. And if someone is really determined, I’m not sure the key file will be hard to obtain for them no matter what. But I was curious what setup others have
Where do you keep the key file and the PW managers DB? I feel like they would be too much side-by-side to really increase security in my case
@mormund I used to store them in a paper notebook, away from the prying eyes of the malware. Now I also have them in a password manager for easy access in case I need them, if the account supports 2FA TOTP.
@Rikj000
I won’t disclose where I store mine.
But I’d recommend to:
(That would decrease security, x1 data breach would allow them to easily brute force your PW DB since they’ll have the key)
I’ve been happily using KeeWeb + Keepass2Android for years now:
Can always use a service like bitwarden, even their free tier is very good
You could use a USB drive that you only ever plug in to open the password manager. It’s not the most secure option but it’s a bit better than no key file at all.
Can’t use it with a phone though. To be honest, I think just having a password manager gives you protection against 99% of the attack surface. And if someone is really determined, I’m not sure the key file will be hard to obtain for them no matter what. But I was curious what setup others have
If someone is really determined to attack you specifically they will just get a wrench.
or store the key in a tpm chip protected by password +biometric auth? that’s what kost OSs do for storing passkeys and encryption keys