I think I am allergic to commodification. I could get out of my house but there’s fee public spaces, so I could go to a restaurant or a coffee shop I guess. Some people seem to do this all the time, become regulars. Isnt it just throwing money away to enjoy having someone else do it for you? To sit in a comfy place? I hate it. I am going to be unhappy rather than spend my days exchanging my money for the chance to smile.
Nobody is immune to propaganda.
That said, when it comes to advertisements, I hate them passionately, and will often note the brand in the advert so I can avoid it.
I don’t know how people can function while there’s a flashy animated thing to one side of their screen, I literally cannot read the main content until that is gone or covered up. It muddled my brain until it’s gone.
Heck, even an overly busy and colourful web page due to a bunch of static ads is very oppressive and difficult to deal with. An untidy website gives me an untidy mind, basically.
I just don’t get how people wade through this crap and get anything done. I’ve blocked ads for decades now, and I’m never going back.
How do you know company A is really advertising to you Company B’s product, which is a competitor of theirs?
Whenever I use a computer without an ad blocker, I’m literally holding out my hand on the screen to block the ad so it doesn’t distract me. ADHD+ND is a bitch.
I hate them passionately, and will often note the brand in the advert so I can avoid it.
I’ve been getting a letter from State Farm Insurance every week (sometimes multiple per week… sometimes multiple per day) for over almost 20 years. I’ve moved 15 times and they still follow me. All this has done is guarantee I will never sign up for their shitty insurance. I’ve been thinking about calling them just to try and get the letters to stop. I had to do this with XM… it worked, until I got a new car and another free 3 months. Now I guess I need to call and yell at them again.
I want to be a savvy consumer
It’s not that propaganda doesn’t work on them, I see those types falling for neo-nazi shit all the time because they know how to appeal to them. It’s just that they process the world in a fundamentally different way, so a lot of the psychological tricks that propaganda relies on simply doesn’t work on them. It’s kind of like how the early days of white supremacy had a hard time getting women because all their propaganda played to mysogyny. Once they figured out that they can rewire their hatred of women to be a good thing (the trad wife) that’s when they started jumping on board and really driving their influence into the american culture.
I’m autistic and I’ve always felt I had a certain gullibility. If I’m reading an article, and an argument sounds rational. I’m more likely to fall for it. Even if it contains a ton of bad premises. I’d like to think as I’ve gotten older and more mature, these kinds of things work less on me. But honestly I’m not sure.
I can’t say if I’m autistic or not but I hate reading news from sources I know to be untrustworthy because I still find myself thinking “this sounds correct” until I finish reading and remember it’s 99% bs
I have autistic relatives, and while marketing tricks generally don’t work on them, FOMO and rule of cool absolutely do. My brother is on the spectrum and constantly has to have the latest Apple devices (he can afford to, he’s got a great job and he’s super smart). My dad was too and he was constantly buying any new gadget he saw.
So I don’t remember either of them ever being swayed by a specific commercial or marketing campaign, but a photo and a description could be enough, which is sometimes worse.
On top of that, their microfixations, like my brother’s with Apple, means they spend an inordinate amount of money on the thing they feel is too cool to pass up.
When my father died, he and my mom had a household full of junk- not a huge mess like a hoarder’s house, just a ton of stuff in the attic and garage and closets and so on- and most of it was technology no one would want. Like a keyboard that would put title graphics on a home video designed for CRT TVs. Or the multiple VHS-C and Hi-8 camcorders he bought. Like my brother, he could afford to do it, but what a waste of money.
So while autistic people don’t often get swayed by advertising, they can, in my experience, still spend way too much money on the cool new thing.
I am immune to propaganda. Yes.
“This year, hundreds of men will die of stubbornness from ignoring…”
“No, we won’t.”
I sure as hell am not
YOU ARE TO PROPAGANDA IMMUNE
I am to propaganda immune what?
Deez nutz.
So I hear you like Wendy’s
I actually believe this about myself at times.
I know it about myself. In fact most advertisements have the opposite affect on me. Rather than making me want the product it makes me actively avoid it.
And with shrinkflation and quality of products has gone down if a company has enough money to advertise constantly I immediately think less of the entire company not just whatever product their shilling
I’m the same way. It annoys me so much and I end up avoiding brands that try to advertise too much. I also think that products that are actually good will market themselves in the end through word of mouth. Companies selling shitty product will spend more money on pummelling your brain with ads instead of you know, actually developing a good product.
Yeah, it’s kind of a zero-sum game. The more money a company spends on advertising, the less it has for development of a good product.
I’ve seen too many scam ads and generally bad products to buy anything that’s being advertised. If they’re advertising, there’s probably a reason why they didn’t have enough users already.
Same. I also remove as much advertising from my home life as possible (as I assume many of us do these days), turn the radio off in the car when ads play or change the channel, tune out when I’m forced to see them somewhere away from home and look at my phone, and full on mentally do my best to zone out when I hear them in stores.
Here’s the link to the referenced article.
The short of it is that people on the spectrum focus on the details, and ignore ‘extraneous’ information. The typical emotional appeals–such as the choice of certain fonts, colors, graphics, emotional language, etc., is going to be largely ignored by people on the spectrum, while they focus on the details that are directly relevant to the use of the product.
I’ve noted this tendency in myself (and yes, I"m on the spectrum).
Obvs. that doesn’t mean that all advertising falls flat, just that the kinds of emotional appeals that are more typical in advertisement are going to be less effective.
Oh, and I do block ads across all platforms.
ppl who caption memes with article headlines should off themselves. like seriously let me read the goddamn article you illiterate fuckhole
and if u, catatonic comment reader, don’t think that this shit is a problem then just click the down arrow and go. don’t try spread your stupid to me
I agree with you but your tone is way too violent, we should be helping people learn from their mistakes, not infantilizing them.
got a newsflash for u, there’s more to life than just trying to being ‘right’ about shit
That has nothing to do with the comment you replied to.
Here’s the article Psychology Today references, which delves into the methodology of the research.
I don’t know if I’m on the spectrum or not, but I always focus on the details (if not ignoring the ads completely), because my first question is always, “how are they trying to fuck me this time?” The more obvious the emotional appeals and other tricks, the more I think they’re trying to screw people. If they are too over the top I write them off completely without even looking any further into it. If if they have to use that much manipulation, the product probably sucks.
I had a lot of math problems in school that were all about ignoring all the superfluous information to pick out what was needed to answer the actual question. I’m sure stuff like that helped too.
Is it really just autistic folks? I see marketing material all the time that frustrates because they tell me nothing about the product I’m trying to research.
Like a phone product page saying things like “our camera helps you capture the moments that matter”. Well, duh, I know what a camera does and everyone has a camera, but is there anything particularly nice about your camera? Marketing material wastes so much material on uselessly vague stuff. Extra madness when their web design hijacks scrolling to pause my scrolling to change it to advancing some animation…
It’s not just autistic people, no, but autistic people appear to be better at filtering than neurotypical people.
Imagine two cameras in boxes. One is in a white box with black text that lists camera specs. The other is a brightly colored box that has examples of the photos taken with that came, along with a more sparsely populated list of specs. Which are you more likely to buy? Most people–not all, but most–are going to gravitate towards the more appealing packaging unless there are pretty gross differences in specifications that make it less desirable. People might be willing to pay somewhat more for the appealing packaging, as long as the specs appear roughly similar. Autistic people are supposedly better at filtering that kind of information out.
Marketing just isn’t adjusted to people with autism because they are only a small part of the population.
They can definitely manipulate you if they so desire.
No, no they can’t esp when I block all ads
I feel like about 4% of all the comments on Lemmy are just people telling each other they use an adblocker
Do you listen to the radio or live in a state with billboards? Do you go anywhere in public? Lots of places you can’t block advertisements…
Nope live in a small town up in Canada and I use Stingray Music that has no ads and we have no adverts on our streets
Dude, you’re talking about people with autism and on lemmy. Do you really think it’s a stretch that they wouldnt leave the house? Most of us left reddit because they stopped letting us browse the way we want with the app we want.
Who tf listens to radio? I haven’t turned the radio on in my car since I got it in 2017. I don’t even know it it works, nor do I care.
The most a billboard has ever gotten from me is an eye roll and cringe. I’m focused on driving or my phone as a passenger. Advertisements do not enter my home or my work.
It’s a huge fucking culture shock when I see an advertisement. People are really out here still sitting through multiple minutes of ads. YouTube ads that will play for hours if you don’t press skip. I didn’t know this shit existed til I saw it on my friends TV and I convinced them to at least pay for YouTube premium.
I do not fuck with ads, my guy. They exist but they don’t exist in my sphere of influence.
Shit, is that why any time I sense the marketing it makes me not want the product??
I was today years old when I found out I was autistic.
Just kidding, I’ve known for years.
Yeah I’m pretending a bit, I’ve been aware for a mere few months now
More like “Ugh, ad. Anyway, next thought running…”
That’s your mind’s natural immune system fighting BS
As a general rule, if I want it, I seek a good deal. If I am approached, it’s bad deal for me so I avoid.
So what actually are the numbers on the low-functioning to high-functioning scale? Because it does not surprise that someone who starts screeching uncontrollably because they find their toothbrush on the wrong side of the sink in the morning would not concern themselves with the new Nike Airs.
Low functioning autism is an antiquated term. But, for years those on the lower end of the autism spectrum were more often diagnosed than those on the higher end of functionality because their manifestation of ASD was more apparent. Within the last 20 years those on the higher functioning end of the spectrum have started outnumbering those on the lower end. Also, due to better rehabilitation resources for people with ASD some initially on the lower end of functioning were able to be reassessed as on the higher functioning end.
A lot of people who were erroneously accessed as having an intellectual disability on the ASD spectrum was because they were non verbal. Once speech and language therapy was able to help some of these kids speak. Once they were able to communicate it was apparent that they weren’t actually slow. When I was 2 my parents were told I would be able to write or spell my own name. Here I am more than 20 years later studying psychology in college.
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the article is propaganda btw! many autistic people are still affected by marketing and the like! NO ONE IS IMMUNE
Speak for yourself
puts on the blue cap
Hellen Keller?
braille marketing
Yes, no one is immune to propaganda in the sense of misinformation.
Ads on the other hand… The often quoted subconscious working of ads just doesn’t work on me: i choose my müesli based on parameters (like texture, taste,…), not on whims! So ads go on one side in, out on the other.
Did you make a blind test on your Müsli? Get several different brands and eat them blind.
There’s health a big consideration, since it’s something almost daily. So 5-corn with wholewheat flakes and fruit it is. Next convenience store has only one brand of it.
Ok if dug that deep into details there is no need for a test.
What “detail”. Average 20’s to 40’s person cares too less for their health and are then suffering and expensive when they get old.
Well I don’t care about my food that much that I choose my cerial on most healthy option. I eat what I want when I feel like it. As long as I don’t eat only unhealthy food this should work out. And if I get to 100 or only 80 because of tthat I don’t care.
Another side effect of ads: you think you want Muesli for breakfast, not soup or fried egg.
Nah, i just can’t stomach more in the first few hours.
You buy your muesli…? You know you can make it cheaply and easily, right?
It’s called subconscious for a reason. You aren’t concous about it.
How do you know that you choose your muesli based on parameters, when things like taste are influenced by the brand and design of the package. No this is not a joke and there actually have been studies on this.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0950329312002364
I’m aware of that effect and it doesn’t matter for me.
Preconcusness isn’t the subconscousness but only things that you aren’t councious of right now but that could be brought into consciousness
It literally isn’t the same thing
Edit: they edited their comment and now my comment doesn’t make sense anymore. They said that the unconscious is an outdated term and we should rather use preconousness and that they are way more conscious about everything than everyone else.
and that they are way more conscious about everything than everyone else.
I didn’t say that.
Yeah, sorry I mean about ads. I only recite it from my memory
Habe ich nicht gesagt. Nur, dass dieser spezifische Typ bei mir nicht funktioniert.
Ads on the other hand… The often quoted subconscious working of ads just doesn’t work on me
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Have you considered those ads simply aren’t targeted at people like you but at the mainstream instead? And that you may well still be susceptible to adds targeted at your kind of mindset?
Have you considered those ads simply aren’t targeted at people like you but at the mainstream instead?
Yes, that’s what i said?
And that you may well still be susceptible to adds targeted at your kind of mindset?
You mean ads for products i would choose based on my need and their qualities? Gladly. But im rather careful with my privacy and see ads only on the street, so there’s that.
Don’t get buthurt so easily.
NO ONE IS IMMUNE
Sorry but I’m built different
There’s no one a con man loves more than someone who thinks they’re too smart to be conned.
People who think they’re immune to ads are the most vulnerable to ads.
