Love the PCIe interface upgrade. Hope they expand on it even more in the future.
Fool me once…
For the small price of 250 scalper dollars you will be able to buy it
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These things are great for !boinc@sopuli.xyz often time leagues more efficient per watt in terms of computation than regular PCs. I have a couple of 'em working on cancer research and computing to develop an open-source patent-free covid antiviral. You don’t need a PhD to make a difference, all you need is a processor :)
I did a quick Google.
https://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/group/green_machines.htmlIs the best actual test data I can find. It uses a physical power meter, so it’s full system (not TDP or self reporting power consumption).
And it’s a few years out of date.
Seems like Apple silicon is the winner (and will probably continue to be).
The Xeon that beats the rpi4 for GFLOPS/watt is an e5v3, which was launched in 2013 and EOL in 2021.
So there will absolutely be some new Xeon CPUs that will perform better.However, for a $50 device, it’s probably the best GFLOPS/watt/$ from what little empirical data I can find
If they were more efficient per watt for scientific computing, you’d hear about researchers building HPC clusters from them.
*more efficient than regular PCs. Not more efficient than supercomputers lol
If they were more efficient per watt for scientific computing, you’d hear about researchers building HPC clusters from them.
Efficiency per watt is not the same as total cost of ownership. Pis are expensive for the amount of compute you get from them in total, but the compute itself is efficient per watt. You would need at least a dozen Pis to rival the latest CPU processors in terms of total output, a dozen Pis is more expensive to buy than a single CPU.
Will it handle all features of Plex? Like streaming high def and using all plexamp features?
4k decoding still drops frames, hardware is capable but drivers are not right now
Theres much better options for that
But are there cheaper options… who am I kidding. Raspberry Pi 5 will instantly get scalped for 80+ dollars.
Edit: looks like they are already 60-80 dollars
Any suggestions that you could make? I’m in the market for replacing my plex box.
I use a J5040-ITX ATM. I know it says Pentium but don’t take that for granted. This chip is really just a lower binned i3 throttled enough to be passively cooled.
I run Plex as a docker-compose workload and bind mount /dev/dri which passes Intels quick sync accelerator into the container for Plex to use.
This enabled hw encoding. I also make sure I can direct stream from all of my clients. This setup can handle a few 4k streams and several 1080p streams.
I mainly use it hoard to losseless music and hard to find cartoons / movies.
I have an upgrade to a Pi Cluster planned but I don’t recommend it unless you specifically want to run Pis.
So, the pi is $80. That is without a case, power supply, or hard drive. Once you add these things to the Pi, you are into the $100-200 price range. At that point, you can just get an old desktop or a micro desktop. There are some youtube videos about it. I think they are maybe twice as big as a pi, but have intel processors in them.
They will be cheaper or similar in price and have better performance.
I just use an old desktop that has a 4th gen i5 and it runs significantly better than the pi4 does. Plus, I can just throw all my drives in the case and not need to worry about USB connected drives.
Also, I recommend Jellyfin over Plex.
The problem with that is the power consumption. It adds up.
I guess, it’s not going to be a huge difference when you factor in using a bunch of hard drives.
The raspberry pi has its place for sure, but those micropcs are probably a better deal for most people who want them for home use.
Any Intel CPU 8th gen or newer with quick sync can do like 20 simultaneous 1080p transcodes. You could get a Celeron and have a powerful plex box. Look up guides for the HP 290 as a starting place.
OpenGL 3.1 and Vulkan 1.2 in 2023? It’s so terrible!
It’s the lack of hardware AV1 that concerns me, as well as droppong h.264. Raw CPU means it’ll still handle the latter, but since streaming will be moving to AV1 it’s kind of questionable whether this will be a reasonable media center.
It’s not “opengl 3.1” it’s “opengl es 3.1” which stand for embedded system and roughly equals to OpenGL 4.3 spec.
Oh, my bad. But OpenGL ES 3.1 and Vulkan 1.2 is also not suitable to 2023. Hope the developers can make driver support Vulkan 1.3.
They did mention that gpu has open source mesa driver support
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I had an instant flashback when I saw your icon, I can still here his voice. Haven’t thought about stronghold in a long time.
🎶 I know what I’m gonna buy soon 🎶
Not a raspberry pi 5 because you won’t be able to find that shit in stock anywhere lmao
I mean you can order them right now.
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I clicked the first one and the Pi5 is listed for >$2k and out of stock. Can you be more specific?
In some areas it can be out of stock due to high demand and low supply, it’s been announced less than 24 hours ago. I don’t know what’s your problem, but stop acting like I owe you something.
I didn’t act like you owe me anything. Someone asked you for a link to where they can order them and that is not what you posted. It was not helpful.
I can’t find them at any of the German retailers at least. Only one that claims it will probably be sold by 23.10
Sick
Is that like when I ordered a 3B and was told it’ll ship in 3 months then 3 months later the retailer emailed me to say that I’ll need to cancel my order because they don’t know when it’ll actually be filled?
Why not?
That’s a big rock Patrick
For all of us bitter people who couldn’t get an RPi 3 let alone 4 for less than a fortune during the recent dark times…
We’d like to thank you: we’re going to ringfence all of the Raspberry Pi 5s we sell until at least the end of the year for single-unit sales to individuals, so you get the first bite of the cherry.
So I will probably preorder one because why not.
Someone needs to test and find the bugs so that the corporate users get a good experience next year.
I wonder if the will make a Pi 500 the all in one form factor is so convenient when traveling
Are they still playing apologetics for the cops? Because if so, no thanks.
Well – they never really backed down on what they did. Far as we know the out-and-proud espionage cop is still in their payroll, and the only response they ever gave to the story was a generalised ‘We think the entire thing is being astroturfed and that no one reasonable is ACTUALLY against us hiring this guy who bragged about all the espionage he did’ back in the day.
They never said anything about it since. So it’s fair to assume they still believe in what they did.
What does that mean?
Here’s a google prompt for you: “raspberry pi police”
“Are they still [irrelevant complaint]”
“What?”
“GoOgLe iT”Sigh…
“Raspberry Pi eats babies”.
No need to be an ass about it. For those who don’t want to sift through an article, the RPi Foundation apparently hired an ex-cop who had been known to use their products to conduct surveillance, and that caused a controversy.
everybody claps and cheers when you say jUsT gOoGLe iT instead of being a decent human being and providing context
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I wouldn’t know because I haven’t used it in years, stuck to duckduckgo 😁
@bappity @asexualchangeling sadly duck duck go is basically just a bing proxy
at least it’s not Google and it works for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
reminder that rpi is pro cop: https://nitter.net/molly0xFFF/status/1601037628450959360?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
That’s probably the smallest problem here
Look, I’m already sold.
Finally, a pi good for 4K video! (Apparently Raspberry Pi 4 could as well, but I am assuming this is an improvement. I still have a couple of Raspberry Pi 3’s.)
You won’t notice a difference in h265 4k video as each has a decoder, but Youtube performance would definitely be improved. My Rpi4 struggles with 4k60p youtube videos because it lacks a VP9 decoder.
Sadly no hardware AV1 decode though. Though it can apparently decode AV1 in software up to 1080p.
I don’t know about lately, but 4k on Pi 4 was always janky.
ACAB means ACAB, come on