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A fairly large amount of traditional Italian dishes aren’t Italian. Many of these, such as carbonara, pizza, and tiramisu, were actually invented in the US, and only became known in Italy sometime in the mid-late 20th century.Edit: I’ve been corrected, these dishes do originate from Italy. I should’ve re-read the article instead of going off of memory.
We’ve got paintings of pizza that are older than the US 😂
Many of these, such as carbonara, pizza, and tiramisu, were actually invented in the US
From the article you cited:
Pizza is a prime example. “Discs of dough topped with ingredients,” as Grandi calls them, were pervasive all over the Mediterranean for centuries: piada, pida, pita, pitta, pizza. But in 1943, when Italian-American soldiers were sent to Sicily and travelled up the Italian peninsula, they wrote home in disbelief: there were no pizzerias. Before the war, Grandi tells me, pizza was only found in a few southern Italian cities, where it was made and eaten in the streets by the lower classes. His research suggests that the first fully fledged restaurant exclusively serving pizza opened not in Italy but in New York in 1911. “For my father in the 1970s, pizza was just as exotic as sushi is for us today,” he adds.
It clearly states something different than your claim. Pizza was not invented in the US, it was popular in the US.
From Wikipedia:
Modern pizza evolved from similar flatbread dishes in Naples, Italy, in the 18th or early 19th century.[31] Before that time, flatbread was often topped with ingredients such as garlic, salt, lard, and cheese. It is uncertain when tomatoes were first added and there are many conflicting claims,[31] though it certainly could not have been before the 16th century and the Columbian Exchange. Until about 1830, pizza was sold from open-air stands and out of pizza bakeries.
Many sources state pizza wasn’t popular in Italy as it was in the US, but your statement on it’s origin is 100% wrong.
Tl;dr Italy invented the pizza but the US invented the pizzeria.
It was popularized and took it’s current form in the US. Flatbread with toppings was eaten all across the Mediterranean, so isn’t Italian as such.
Flatbed with cheese and tomatoes on pizza bread… Yep, that’s basically pizza. You can say Italian Americans evolved the dish and created popular varieties, but the basics come from Naples. Flatbed with toppings was eaten even in Achaemenid Persia, so I’m not talking about just that, but about a dish called “pizza” with cheese and tomatoes, and that clearly comes from Italy.
Have you not read the article? Cheese and all types of fruit/meats were used on the flatbread. Trukish Pide is basically the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İçli_Pide
The thing with the invention of tradition is that it’s orgiginality is only established after the popularity. American GI’s find out that pizza is not the thing in Italy it was back in the states: people go looking and find that someone from Napoli wrote something about flatbread with cheese and tomato. Now it is said to be an Italian classic.
Sam thing happened in Scotland with the Kilts and tartan. That wasn’t a thing in Scotland untill an English textile salesmen started selling fabrics to scottish nobility in the 19’th century.
This is not stated accurately. The American versions of pizza and carbonara we’re invented in the US, but there were and are original Italian versions.
Regardless which lossless compression algorithm you prefer, it makes most files bigger.
*where “files” includes all bitstrings of a given length, whether or not they’ve ever existed
That’s pretty disingenuous, since most files aren’t just random data.
Most real files actually have rather low entropy, even if they look like random junk (e.g., executables), chiefly due to repetition of similar data and sparse values.
Exactly. It’s merely our human preference for those types of files that allow them to work at all.
things get weird when we include “all possible states”
It’s not a preference; it’s simply the state of the system to which we may desire to apply compression.
*except the identity function 🤓
the ups and downs are battling hard on the parent comment. gotta admit, I had to think for a few seconds to get the gist of it, but its actualy pretty slick and perfectly snarky.
edit: only thought would be that an infinite selection of random data sets would be somewhat evenly split between compressable and non-compressable, but if you add compression structure, it tips the balance firmly into “file size increases” territory.
very cool little comment.
Is it because it works on patterns and your random garbled string would have too much noise to be compressed well, while a structured file coming from an actual piece of software would probably have enough repeating patterns to the point where it actually can be shrunk?
yes. dictionary based compression is truly awful when fed random data.
In future space travel spaghettification will be a serious concern.
Yummy.
Wait why? I thought that was only a thing if you get close to a black hole. Why would it be a serious concern? Couldn’t you just avoid the black holes?
It can also matter if you are travelling close to the speed of light.
Yea maybe, but would still concern the hell out of me…
All the planets in the solar system can fit in the space between the Earth and the Moon
That I cleaned the house (according to my fiance at least)
Turtles can, in fact, breathe through their butts.
Trees are mostly made of air.
Communism can be achieved.
Maine is the closest US state to Africa.
According to my sloppy google maps guesstimate, this appears to be true. Florida-West Africa seems slightly further than Maine-Northwest Africa
Florida is crazy far west, compared to where I expect. It’s due south of Ohio.
I feel like this probably explains some things…
I once read a blog from a sailing group that pointed out that there is possible sea route where you could sail from Halifax, Nova Scotia in a straight line and end up in Vancouver, British Columbia.
Is that really true haha
They are the most West, so yea
weast
Potayto, tomahto
Actually, here’s my fun fact: Alaska is the farthest North, East, and West state in the U.S.
You are technically correct the best kind of correct
I’ve noticed Americans tend to be surprised that Europe is bigger than the US
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The first fax machine was invented over 30 years before the first telephone.
There was an approximately 20 year period where a samurai could have sent a fax to Abraham Lincoln
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The can opener was invented 30 years after the can.
