Dear User,

We will soon begin rolling out changes to Reddit’s User settings. It is getting a refresh that includes changes to ad personalization, privacy preferences, and location settings.

As part of these changes, we are retiring a setting that you have previously turned on that limited how we used your activity from the Reddit platform to personalize ads. We have replaced the setting with a new option to select categories of ads that you may not wish to see.

More details are available in our announcement and help center.

These changes are rolling out starting today and you may see the changes over the next few days.

Users will be tracked with no opt out. Posts may be monetized, which will make content even worse No refund or any type of usable credit for users that spent hundreds on Reddit coins The entire vibe has done a 180° since all these new “positive changes” are rolled out.

  • King
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    22 years ago

    Users now clicking I accept new TOS means the end of reddit. Talk about ignorance. Maybe stop obsessing over a website youre not even using anymore and be productive instead.

  • @[email protected]
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    192 years ago

    The new update is horrible. They are blocking critical comments and gaslighting users too.

    Sadly it’s not even close to the final nail. The largest reason being there isn’t anything to take its place. While I love Lemmy, there are still too many hurdles and roadblocks to getting started compared to other social media platforms and all of those established ones are doing similar moves to Reddit’s nonsense. But just like why Mastodon hasn’t topple Twitter is that the ease of use and user base isn’t there.

    Until someone can offer the same(ish) experience that almost fully featured and super easy to get start. Most users won’t break their habits. They only other way is to offer something that is better than the other platforms (since this can be wildly subjective) again ease of use and standardized features are incredibly important.

    Will Twitter, Reddit and Facebook go the way of MySpace? I’m sure at some point. But only until something can truly replace or pull users.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      the community quality on Lemmy also just isn’t there yet. there are some good niche communities, but a lot of “staples” are either just not active enough or are poorly moderated.

      for example, there still isn’t a good alternative to /r/Games. lemmy.world has /c/games, but their rules aren’t nearly as strict as the former, and it has lead to very poor discussion quality in comparison. All the top comments on the Starfield impressions thread a few weeks ago were low-effort, karma-whoring, single sentences complaining about pre-orders rather than actually discussing the game itself.

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          I’d honestly say the confusion between what communities are worth subscribing to is one of the worst blocks for me. Sure, /c/ exists, but what server should I go to? What communities are there? What ones are actually active? It’s not as easy as reddit was, and if it’s annoyed me then it’s definitely stopped another 10 people from bothering with lemmy :/ Edit: also, ty for the suggestion

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            https://lemmyverse.net/communities is a good way to find communities.

            The main indicator is the number of monthly users and how new the content is.

            This can be a bit tricky, but it used to be the same on Reddit when there was Gaming, Games, VideoGames and all the variants. Over time, one community emerged as the one

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      I use boost for lemmy which was made by the same guy who made it for reddit. It looks and acts pretty much the same.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I honestly think a small part of Mastodon’s problem is the name, for a while I would just think of the metal band or the fossil record. I feel like at least for me there is a subconscious effect that names and branding have that can be hard to notice.

  • @[email protected]
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    212 years ago

    I just deleted my reddit account and signed up here as well. Fortunately, I don’t know anyone else who still has an account. Most of my friends and family left a long time ago.

  • @[email protected]
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    802 years ago

    No, this won’t kill Reddit. If they can essentially remove every third-party app, they’ll easily be able to start selling user data. Whether we like it or not, the majority stayed on Reddit.

    Nothing short of somehow breaking through ad blockers like Twitch did will make people stop using it, even if that.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      Thanks for bringing up Twitch. I’m one of the folks who quit using the site after the ad block changes. Did an alternative ever come along?

    • Cosmic Cleric
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      172 years ago

      Whether we like it or not, the majority stayed on Reddit.

      The fight may not be over though.

      Where people didn’t really care about an API change for third party apps, they may care a lot more about having ads shoved in their faces whether they like it or not.

      It’s all about breakings their inertia to change.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        People en mass make “economic” decisions. If they view an alternative such as lemmy as too difficult to use, or their communities are not here they will rather tolerate the ads. Learning to use a new app or having to start the community themselves is too much effort for most people.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      If there are still Facebook and Twitter users, of which we know there are, nothing will kill Reddit.

      However, I’ll say I’m someone not good at change but am agoraphobic, so my only “connection” was Reddit, and I finally gave in and deleted for good.

      Still getting used to this platform, but hopefully can find less toxic users here. Social media seems to be made special for bullies.

    • @[email protected]
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      262 years ago

      I think Reddit can die easier than say facebook though, because people don’t use it as a social network. If you have irl friends/family that’s only on facebook you can’t really leave. That’s not the case for Reddit, as soon as another site has similar content to offer there’s nothing really keeping people except lazyness

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        If you have irl friends/family that’s only on facebook you can’t really leave.

        they can all still talk to you via phone, text, email, in person, etc. that is what i told all my family when i hopped off facebook

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          No easy way to share vacation or gathering photos. If I post one and my aunt comments everyone can see that discussion and join. Not so with just chat groups. Overwhelming majority want this layout and there is no easy way around it.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        Facebook kind of died and used the momentum it had to reinvent itself. Back in the day I used to see updates from my friends, and I used to interact with them. I stopped using Facebook at some point a few years ago and recently got back to it. I use Marketplace, and in my country people with the same hobby as me seem to interact over Facebook more than anything else. Younger people rarely upload except for a few very active outliers. Most of the content is these clickbaity short videos of 5-minute crafts or live-feeding frogs to slightly larger frogs because Facebook thinks I’m into it for some reason. They just made an addictive never-ending stream of content.

  • Jennie
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    132 years ago

    the final nail for me happened long ago. the site has genuinely sucked for years. all the content in the top subreddits is basically ChatGPT generated rage bait, so many subreddits have turned into right wing shitholes, and Reddit themselves have proven time and time again that they do not care about their users. as always their greed has gotten the best of them

    the exact same thing happened with Discord. I’ve actually disabled my Discord account and only use my Reddit out of habit at this point

    • @[email protected]
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      152 years ago

      Noice. I still use Reddit on desktop occasionally, but haven’t touched mobile since the api change.

  • @[email protected]
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    62 years ago

    Reddit is shit and not being able to opt out of being tracked is shit but honestly if you can choose to block gambling ads etc that’s actually pretty good

  • @[email protected]
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    92 years ago

    It’s not the end of the world, it’s the end of the world as we know it.

    Reddit is becoming a harsher place for the kind of community-driven, higher investment content that made it what it is today (which is less profitable) and a better place for mindless scrolling and sleazy engagement-baiting mostly fed by automatic content aggregators (which is more profitable).

    Plenty of communities will remain due to inertia: switching platforms is hard. As far as I’m concerned, I will keep using reddit for two reasons: and to check in on a few communities that I am actually engaged in.

  • HiramFromTheChi
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    572 years ago

    If you wanna keep your bookmarks and the subreddits (communities) that you’re subscribed to before deleting your Reddit account, I made a free tool to help you store and offload that data.

    It’s called Reddit Account Manager, and it’s 100% free.

    You can also use it to manage your Lemmy account(s), of course.

      • HiramFromTheChi
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        22 years ago

        You could use a service like SimpleLogin, Addy, Duck, or just a temporary fake email generator. I don’t mind if you give me a fake email address—you have a right to privacy.

        If it helps, my website’s hiram.io. I realize that’s still “random” in the grand scheme of things, but it should at least show you I’m a real person, and I build stuff to build a better web.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        You should be using an email forwarding/alias service such as SimpleLogin, or apples proprietary hide my email service for example. You can have an infinite amount of alias emails that all forward to your main, and have 100% control over.

        The other option is older school, just make another account somewhere. You can also create automated rules to just forward all emails from their to your main too.

        • noodle (he/him)
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          22 years ago

          sure, but people could also host their freeware in a way that doesn’t require me to do any of those.

          • HiramFromTheChi
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            12 years ago

            I’d open source it if I could, but since Reddit Account Manager is built without code, I can’t host it on GitLab or GitHub.

            • noodle (he/him)
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              *sigh* because sometimes instead of telling someone “it sucks that in order to get that one piece of software from your website you make me create an account despite me never going to visit it again”, you can phrase it a bit more politely and hope that they, you know, figure out the intent behind the question rather than take it so incredibly literally.

      • HiramFromTheChi
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        32 years ago

        Your question’s a little nuanced, so let me try to answer this as thoroughly as possible:

        The short answer is: If the platform you choose to use it is accessible from your Android phone, then yes. But it’s not Android- or iOS-specific.

        Out of the platforms that it’s available on (Airtable, Notion, Coda, ClickUp, and Baserow), all of them except for Baserow have native mobile apps. With that said, Baserow is also mobile responsive, so you don’t need a native mobile app to work with Reddit Account Manager.

        • Reddit Account Manager is a template built on top of those tools (Airtable, Notion, Coda, ClickUp, and Baserow), so you’ll need an account with at least one of those to use it.
        • Reddit Account Manager is built without code.

        Hope that clears things up. :)

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Uhh yeah that didn’t clear things up.

          I don’t have a computer and I want all my Reddit content deleted without having to do manual labor for the next several months.

      • HiramFromTheChi
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        42 years ago

        Yep, the ideal workflow for migrating would be something like this:

        1. Use Reddit Account Manager to neatly organize and store your Reddit accounts, bookmarks, and subscriptions
        2. Request your data archive from Reddit itself
        3. Use something like Redact or Power Delete Suite to remove your content from Reddit
        4. Permanently delete your accounts from Reddit
        5. Move to a federated alternative (optional)
  • 👁️👄👁️
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    352 years ago

    We all know they’re still not going to leave. Also lol those people buying Reddit coins can get fucked.

  • @[email protected]
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    132 years ago

    One thing holding me back from stopping to use reddit as a whole is using old.reddit in the browser. Can’t stand the new design, and once they remove that option - never looking back for real.

    On mobile, Lemmy all the way.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      I’ve found myself in the same boat.

      Not sure how I feel about it, but it’s interesting to see someone else commenting about doing the same.

    • @[email protected]
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      tbh I can’t understand why people liked old reddit sorry I’m a zoomer idiot but still can someone help me understand?

      • Natanael
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        42 years ago

        For discussions and news and long form text it’s infinitely easier to browse and read in the old layout. The new one is designed for media and for making you quickly jump between threads

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        More lightweight = faster and more content on the screen? Nowadays cool looking websites are slow and with 25% margin on both sides.

        I feel the same all annoyed for example when doing some extensive search on PC vs mobile. No matter if it’s a shopping hunt on ebay or gathering information. On PC i scroll-click 10 links, iterate through them, Ctrl+w the ones being useless and chosing/read betwend the ones left. Something unclear? Double Ctrl+C and deepl pops up with a translation.

        5min on PC vs 20min on mobile, where I have to click each link, fight those pop ups and cookies consent, go back, wait anoyingly long 2 second webpage loads and repeat.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        I used to use reddit with Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES), a browser add-on/extension that has tons of customizations. This was even before there was an old/new reddit, it was just reddit.

        So it’s not that we chose to use “old” reddit, it was that we chose not to use “new” reddit. Going to the new design breaks RES and we would’ve missed out on all of those customizations and quality-of-life features that were missing without it.

        Plus, “new” reddit is designed for doom-scrolling and serving adds, and not about promoting users to engage in dialog. Most of my reddit interaction was around niche content, where I actually dived deep into threads. New reddit got in the way of that.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        I’m more of a list person than someone who prefers cards type of style. With a list, I find it easier to navigate and get a better overview of everything, rather than seeing just a few posts at a time without scrolling.

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        It’s like reading a endless wall of text on old reddit. New reddit has so much more white space

  • @[email protected]
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    362 years ago

    As a mod on reddit (who only reacts to pings these days) I would like to post an undramatic message „here‘s what happened, if you‘re interested to join our lemmy mirror, here‘s the link.“

    Anyone got something I could use which will not set off reddit stans or get me replaced and the message deleted?

    • @[email protected]
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      I found that the best approach is to just have the link in the sidebar. This was how several communities first started introducing discords when it was basically an unknown piece of software. It became normalized without anyone noticing when.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        Thats what I did already. I might just leave it at that then. Thanks for the suggestion though. :)