cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6018317

Hello World!

As we’ve all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:

In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn’t want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.

Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it’s time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!

We know it’s been a rough ride with everything, and we’d like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.

With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!

Lemmy.world Team

❤️

  • peopleproblems
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    72 years ago

    very cool people

    Am I correct to assume this also means people who know a thing or two about this thing or two?

  • Cosmonaut_Collin
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    392 years ago

    I’m really glad to have this community back. I got some good advice for getting tools to download a less financially vampiric version of Adobe Photoshop and premiere.

  • Ami
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    162 years ago

    Nice, I won’t need to switch to other lemmy instance to visit this community anymore.

  • @[email protected]
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    2 years ago

    No acknowledgement or sorry for their stupid garbage and if you try to mention it in their “community” you won’t have a good time, definitely not going to follow anything on that instance except the shitposts again but good to see that they correct a mistake at all I guess!

  • @[email protected]
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    So they finally realized the person that convinced them to block the piracy subs was an idiot transphobic troll who was unhealthily obsessed with defending bungie, a faceless game corporation that needs no defense?

    Shocker.

    • @[email protected]
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      362 years ago

      They state legal reasons, which makes sense. Better check things and be safe. Are there any more details etc. available about what you claim?

      • @[email protected]
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        From a legal standpoint, I sort of get it. One risk of the fediverse is that data is cached locally from federated servers. That could put server owners in legal jeopardy for hosting illegal content. However, if the server is actively moderated and owners respond responsibly to take down requests, they should be okay - in the US at least, and assuming current protections for service providers remain intact.

        I think a good option (if technically feasible) could be to have the choice to de-cache communities or servers that are questionable and make it so that data is transmitted live from the federated server when requested by a client. That would add load to both the local and federated servers though, especially if volume is high.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          One risk of the fediverse is that data is cached locally from federated servers. That could put server owners in legal jeopardy for hosting illegal content.

          This 100%. And not just piracy-related stuff.

          Tbh, there have been some decisions by lemmy.world admins that i didn’t really support, but this one is understandable imo.

          I wonder if the lemmy devs are aware of this and what steps can be taken to protect the instance owners from stuff in other instances that can get them in trouble.

      • @[email protected]
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        Dbzer0 made that public right after the block occured, the person created a new acxount on lemmy.world with no posts just to retaliate. Not sure how much trueth is behind their new claims that they got multiple takedown requests but for some reason I was insulted for not knowing never mentioned or published, would certainly be a better reason but conaideringtheir past behaviour and complete lack of aknowledgment I am not too sure about that tbh.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Don’t try to tell them in their “community”, lemmy.world users are as nasty as always!

  • @[email protected]
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    292 years ago

    Still don’t trust them, they recently censored the fosscad community without announcement or warning.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 years ago

      That’s why there’re are different instances. No one can force you to join lemmy.world just like no one can force them to host content they don’t want to host.

    • Antik 👾
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      72 years ago

      For those that don’t know what “fosscad” is, it was a community where they were sharing 3D printing schematics for guns and other weapons. Which is an entirely different legal nightmare with different laws in different countries.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    I created this user in this instance because I knew this would eventually happen.

    I’m happy with my choice.

  • Corroded
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    2592 years ago

    That’s nice of them to walk it back. Definitely not something you’d see Reddit do

  • meseek #2982
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    262 years ago

    “We love you… unless it’s not in our best interest to do so.”

    • Antik 👾
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      And we Love every single downvote you got from these fine people, too ❤️

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      That’s kind of how it should work everywhere though. Cher figured that out about Sonny eventually for instance.

      • King
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        22 years ago

        Bro thinks hes superior to redditors 💀lemmy makes you so cool bro 💀

    • @[email protected]
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      672 years ago

      Lemmy instances are run by VOLUNTEERS! Lemmy.world is not a COMPANY. A company can have an army of lawyers. An instance run by VOLUNTEERS cannot.

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      We’ll see you battling takedown requests and not being paid to do so.
      All at the risk of a lawyer coming for your ass and closing the whole server down.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      What tf was woke about that or even better question what tf dose woke even mean by now?..

        • @[email protected]
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          122 years ago

          That’s just shitty moderation and probably a overworked mod team, not sure what drug you got your hands on but I would kind of like to try it if you have any left!

            • @[email protected]
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              82 years ago

              There is a difference betwen cencorship and moderation and one of them is a must sve or you end up with 4chan 2.0 but in this case the decition was bad the the reasoning even worse!

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                  Lemmy mods have a horrible and unthankful job, they get flooded with CSAM we never have to see and I didn’t experience any issues with mods so far, is it possible that the issue is related to the kind of stuff you post?

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      This doesn’t sound like censorship, it sounds like they were getting legal threats directly levied at their volunteer team. I can understand the desire to protect yourself against getting sued for your (admittedly large) side project. It sounds like they are working on it in good faith though.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          Firstly, let me be clear. This is my opinion as someone who isn’t, and has never been involved with their instance in any capacity. My account is with pawb.social.

          Posting legal letters may open them up to additional legal liability, and it is completely reasonable to let the community know what happened without sharing the actual letter.

          Secondly, you’re putting words in my mouth. I am not saying they are censoring in good faith. I am saying the complete opposite, that they are reversing their stance in good faith. In other words, they are uncensoring content in good faith.

        • raven [he/him]
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          No anti-“woke” voices are even remotely approaching getting “censored” or “silenced”. If they are then why do I have to hear about them every fucking day?

          On the contrary, if you want to hear from a good portion of the population about issues that affect them you need some aggressively anti-racist anti-sexist anti-queerphobic etc spaces or you won’t likely get the chance. Isn’t hearing what real marginalized people have to say about their own experiences a million times more important than some vague worry about crypto-fash#56637 getting to say their piece which has already been heard and generally decided to be socially harmful and, importantly, silencing to the people their racist, ___-phobic etc speech implies violence to? A chilling effect as you freeze-peach enthusiasts call it.

          Isn’t freedom of speech more about an individual having the right to hear from many viewpoints, than it is about an individual having the right to say anything and everything, anywhere, any time, they so desire?

        • Unruffled [they/them]OPM
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          122 years ago

          You are entitled to your views, but please don’t turn this post into a political discussion. If you want to talk about your political opinions, there are plenty of communities for that topic. [email protected] is not one of those communities. Thanks and have a good day.

    • @[email protected]
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      252 years ago

      It’s honestly the perfect use case for Lemmy too. It’s the kind of thing where decentralization is hugely helpful.