From The Guardian
So Affirmative Action is basically dead for college admissions, further dismantling Civil Rights era legislation.
Way to go, SCOTUS. /s
Oh good, they finally legally mandated color blindness. Historic and pervasive systemic racism is solved once and for all thanks to the Supreme Court issuing an edict that it shouldn’t exist. Huzzah!
They should legally mandate the nonexistence of poverty next. They can solve all the problems America has in a few weeks this way.
Affirmative action is racist. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
No context is needed.
Clarence Thomas is one of the more startling examples of the “fuck you, I got mine” generation. How do you go from being in the black panthers to this?
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You’re spot on with noting that everyone should have a right to their own opinion, regardless of their race. This applies to everyone, including the hypothetical “black guy” you mentioned. No one should be discredited based on their ethnicity or for holding a viewpoint that deviates from any presumed norm.
Your other points, however, seems to conflate the objectives of affirmative action with racism. Affirmative action is not about advantaging certain races at the expense of others; instead, it’s about leveling the playing field that has been historically skewed against certain minority groups. It’s not “racism you do like,” but rather an attempt to correct systemic disparities.
Let’s look at your example about state universities with a 30% minority population in the state but only a 1% representation on campus. Affirmative action aims to bring that 1% closer to the 30% to better reflect the demographics of the society the university serves. It doesn’t necessarily mean that admission standards are lower for these groups; instead, it recognizes that these individuals have likely faced systemic barriers that could disadvantage them in the admissions process.
In an ideal world, we wouldn’t need affirmative action. But we’re not there yet. For now, it acts as a necessary tool to combat systemic issues that can’t be fixed overnight. It’s not about promoting one race over another but promoting fairness and equal opportunity.
What the fuck… dudes a bad human … plain and simple… has nothing to do with being black
Oh so he’s a bad human because he decided that race shouldn’t be taken in account for college admissions? how racist of you
If you intentionally choose to completely misinterpret and misrepresent things then fuck off buddy, on the other hand if you truly can’t see then I feel sorry for you friend…
Took them long enough to make racial discrimination illegal for college admissions.
Such a disingenuous interpretation of affirmative action.
… not really…?
What a massive win for Asian Americans! They’ll finally be allowed to apply to universities and jobs across the nation without facing legal systemic racial discrimination. I’m surprised by the negativity in here. It’s 2023. It’s time to end systemic racial discrimination in America.
Turns out everyone is racist - just depends on which side of the aisle you’re on.
Trying to create equitable outcomes for people who our great grandparents ripped from their home, deleted their cultural and familial history, tortured and raped them, bought and sold them as property, and forced them to work for free essentially at gunpoint, for generations, is not racism.
Words have meaning. Pushing back against the results of 400 years of systemic oppression to try to create equitable outcomes is the opposite of racism.
People like yourself don’t even understand what affirmative action is in reality. Either that, or all of the talk about undeserving minorities “stealing” positions from white people is in bad faith.
Trying to create equitable outcomes for people who our great grandparents ripped from their home, deleted their cultural and familial history, tortured and raped them, bought and sold them as property, and forced them to work for free essentially at gunpoint, for generations, is not racism.
If you’re using racism to achieve those outcomes, it is racism, discriminating Asians in favors of black for college admissions is racism, you can try to rationalize it however you want, but this was plain racism, the people that got discriminated by AA today don’t and have never owned a black slave, the people who benefit from AA today are not and have never been slaves, i am sorry but they ancestors had it shitty, but that’s not excuse to hurt people today just to pay some sort of moral debt.
Words have meaning. Pushing back against the results of 400 years of systemic oppression to try to create equitable outcomes is the opposite of racism.
No, you are not “pushing back”, you are just replacing racism you don’t like, with racism you do like while trying to appear to have the moral high ground, you are a hypocrite.
Some of the people celebrating this have the notion that it will primarily help white kids. I suspect these people will be in for a rude awakening.
It helps rich white kids. A group that we really need to think about helping more because they have it so tough.
realistically it will help high-achieving east-asian first- and second- generation immigrants.
Probably going to get downvoted for this, but I tend to agree that AA, as it stood, had run its course. Getting rid of it now clears the way for new and better solutions.
When I read these excerpts from this article https://news.northeastern.edu/2023/06/29/supreme-court-affirmative-action/ - I get a strong sense that AA really just allowed schools to be lazy.
“Universities all across the country will begin to experiment with a whole variety of admissions techniques that are race-neutral in the sense that race is not an explicit factor, but not race-neutral in the sense that they’re intended to produce diversity,” says Jeremy R. Paul, a professor of law and former dean of the Northeastern University School of Law.
Paul says many universities are going to have to up their recruitment efforts, increase partnerships with community colleges and high-poverty high schools, and invest more in scholarships and financial aid.
“These are things that universities will want to do anyway, because they’re good things to do,” Paul says.
Dan Urman, director of the law and public policy minor at Northeastern, who teaches courses on the Supreme Court, says the ruling means that universities will have to redouble their efforts to maintain diverse student bodies. Urman says there are examples of states opting out of affirmative action policies to mixed results.
“My home state of California abolished affirmative action in 1996 in a vote called Proposition 209, and California universities spent a lot of time and resources recruiting, establishing programs,” he says. “They were able to get diversity, not back to where it was before … but let’s say they were able to avoid some of the worst predictions of what would happen to diversity.”
One potential solution to maintain diversity are so-called percentage plans, where students who graduate at the top of their classes at each respective high school are guaranteed spots in universities. The first percentage plan was signed into law in 1997 in Texas by then-Gov. George W. Bush. It permits any student from “a Texas public high school in the top 10% of his or her class to get into any Texas public college, without any SAT or ACT score.”
