Inspired by https://lemmy.world/post/6312195
And, to set the record straight, I do enjoy pizza hawaii
Both sound just awful
There are plenty of americans who feel that pineapple on pizza is a crime.
Did Hawaii dirty
I mean traditionally ham and pineapple is their thing so I don’t think anyone is getting done dirty so long as non-fans aren’t forced to eat it 🤷
Hawaiian pizza was invented in Canada by a Greek guy
I know 😁
On a pizza ?
Yes. It’s actually delicious if done right.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with you, but that’s okay.
More pineapple for you, more pepperoni for me
Don’t have to worry about who gets the last slice.
Hawaii is the exception as the only place in the world where eating pizza with pineapple is legal.
As always…
Probably because it’s a Canadian invention.
pineapple on pizza is amazing
I’m European and raisins in mac 'n cheese??? 🤮
You do WHAT with Mac n cheese? Nah, forget pine apple pizza, your my new enemy.
Imsorrywhatnow?!
“Pizza Hawaii” . Where the fuck are you from?
Raisins? Pff. Never heard of that. Frozen green peas though? That’s where it’s at for the boxed Mac and cheese.
I hate raisins either way but I love love love sauteed onions with my mac n cheese.
Onions makes sense though as cheese, onions and pasta are a normal combination but raisins?
Apples and cheddar? Pear and brie? Peaches and balsamic?
Sweet + tangy + savory is an incredibly popular combination, so Mac and cheese + raisins isn’t all that unusual.
Also it’s subjective. You don’t have to like it, but it shouldn’t be surprising that other people do.
Sweet and tangy with the presence of acids and moisture from the fruit are a good combo but guess what raisins don’t have?
You ever have a charcuterie board? Dried fruit and cheese are staples there, and neither are particularly moist.
I’ll say it again, it’s ok to not like a particular thing, but you shouldn’t be surprised when someone else does. Everyone’s tastes are different.
Fair, didn’t think of charcuterie.
Huh. I never thought to try that I bet it’s tasty
I’m italian from a family so italian we’re all walkimg stereotypes, and pinapple+black olive is my favorate pizza combination.
You always know when someone says something like “we’re so Italian we…” that they’re definitely not from Italy
I always loved hearing stories from kids that spoke Italian at home in NJ who then went to Italy to discover the 1850s era Sicilian they actually spoke was nothing like modern Italian.
🍍+🍕=Yum
It really is
When Americans make Mac and cheese does it usually only contain macaroni and cheese? Or do they add other things?
Here in Belgium we call it macaroni with ham and cheese because we put pieces of ham in it.
Yea we put ham too, sometimes spam, sometimes bacon. It’s really versatile tbh. We even have other variations like Cheeseburger Macaroni that nearly crosses the line into its own dish.
But, I have never EVER heard of raisins going into it before and it sounds disgusting.
If done well, buffalo chicken mac and cheese is great, too.
Unfortunately most restaurants do a garbage job with it. They just add the chicken and hot sauce into the mac and cheese and let it sit in a pan until someone orders it. This needs to be made fresh when it’s ordered or it just turns into mediocre mush.
They all always screw up buffalo chicken dip, too. That’s even worse because it’s so easy to make right.
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Rotisserie chicken
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Hot sauce, half a cup to a full cup depending on what you like
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Block of cream cheese
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Bag of sharp cheddar.
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Packet of ranch seasoning. Don’t use ranch dressing, it’ll make it too watery.
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If you like blue cheese, grab a small block or, if you’re lazy, grab a little container.
Use two forks to shred up all the breast meat on the rotisserie. Make the shreds varying in consistency - some should be very fine, some should be normal shredded chicken, some should be little chunks.
Slice the cream cheese into small strips. If you’re using a block of blue cheese, remove the rind and crumble it. I like to use a knife for this because it’s quicker.
Grab a large pan. Throw the chicken and hot sauce in. Set it to medium and mix. When it starts simmering, add everything but the blue cheese. Mix it up until it’s all melted and combined. If you have blue cheese, add it now and keep mixing until you’re happy with it.
Turn off the stove. It’s ready now and you’re about to have some fantastic fucking buffalo chicken dip.
Well I know what I’m making this weekend! Thanks.
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Tuna and peas in my mac and cheese, please!
This sounds fucking disgusting, I’d rather have the raisins.
Growing up poor is fun. Very similar to what we called tuna casserole.
- Box of elbow macaroni, cooked
- Can of cream of mushroom soup
- Can of tuna, drained
- Can of peas, drained
Dump. Mix. Consume.
I’m still poor, but I don’t eat that shit.
I grew up poor as well, and tuna casserole was a very common meal. But, the peas are an abomination.
Actually, now that I think about it, that might be why I hate peas so much.
Peas suck
Odd Todd certainly loved that recipe (and probably still does).
In my observation, if it comes from a box, it’ll be simple. If it’s made from scratch then people go more gourmet.
I’ve never heard of macaroni met hesp, where are you from?
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Depends on the region and sometimes ethnicity.
It’s actually considered cruel to have the white guy bring the mac to a black cookout because he’s likely going to get roasted for it.
My family (New Hampshire) typically add smoked cherry tomatoes to our mac and cheese.
Mostly an add in of one protein and one vegetable. When more items get added we just switch to the dish being a pasta or a casserole.
I will say that raisins make a great addition to a curried meatloaf.
Traditional American Mac and Cheese is a dish that consist of macaroni noodles that have been baked in a bechamel based cheese sauce and topped with bread crumbs.
If we put anything else in it, we tell you, just as you do with the addition of ham to the name.
I’m a dead set mac 'n cheese hater
Do you not like short pasta or do you not like cheese sauce?
“Americans when you deep fry butter”
Pineapple on pizza is such a forced debate, nobody normal sincerely cares that much, and anyone who does is either pretending or has a toddler-level approach to food. The “authentic Italian” gatekeeping is also incredibly stupid and ironic, given Italy’s history of appropriating other culture’s foods then claiming they are the arbiters of the most “authentic” version of said food.
My fav dolce pizzas to make are cinnamon date puree with pecans and brown sugar sprinkled over top, or a sliced pear/apple with brie and a Balsamic drizzle.
Ok, but raisins in Mac and cheese is a fucking affront to humanity.
I dunno cause dried fruits are pretty normally served with cheese, and if the starch was a baguette or cracker instead of pasta it would be considered almost boring. People add ketchup to mac’n’cheese which I think is gross, but to me that’s a stronger and sweeter taste than rasins.
Any contrarian food opinions are forced debate, and just plain stupid. Arguing that “pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza” is the logical equivalent to arguing “no one’s favorite color should be red”.
Np ones favorite color should be Yellow
The hilarious pizza regulatory body in Italy says it’s not real pizza though!
This is maybe a hot take but some of the most authentically branded and certified pizza in Italy happened to also be some of the worst pizza I’ve ever eaten, and the best pizza I had in Italy was no better than a good quality pizza anywhere else. I mean they’re damn good pizzas, but turns out baking a circle of dough with tomato sauce and cheese on it is a pretty basic thing to do well. And yeah I know there’s complexity in all of this but it’s not materially complex. Use the proper flour and hydration, knead it well, let it cold ferment for a day, shape it properly. Oh you didn’t use the Roma tomatoes from Mt Vesuvius? Sorry not real pizza.
Also the demand for authentic Italian pizzas from foodies in North America has created some of the worst pizza abominations, because the skill required to shape a ball of dough by hand isn’t widely present in the service industry workforce. Like yeah when the right person is in it’s great, but even at these upper range places tough gummy dough inconsistently shaped is common. “Never frozen though so it’s real!” Nobody can taste the difference between frozen dough that’s been thawed, let to rise, and baked, if anything the longer ferment time makes it taste better.
If you can’t tell I detest the ironic authenticity trend in these heavily market-researched upper range investment restaurants right now. That’s not even to say the notion of authentic food is bullshit, but it seems like a lot of these type of places are more focused on creating a commodified form of what people think authentic food is, than actually making good food. Unfortunately this trend has plagued the humble pizza. I think the way to judge if a pizza is “real” is if you can consume it while walking down a street having a conversation, that’s real pizza.
What all of this effort should really go to… Italy should invalidate the Italian ancestry of anyone involved with calling Chicago deep dish “pizza.” That shit is a casserole, delicious as it may be. NOT PIZZA
When you fucking what now?
You wouldn’t be assuming that everyone on Lemmy is American, would you? Because I lost my shit over that too.
I’m Dutch myself so nope, not assuming so XD
Nevertheless, as a European, it is my continental duty to shit on Americans, which is (partially) why I made the meme :P
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I mean this is simply another reason us American carry guns
I don’t think most Americans need a reason.
I don’t think Americans need a
reasonraisin.FTFY
Hold the fucking phone bud. You can shit on America all you want, but don’t. Think you can shit on Americans all you want.
It was Americans that saved you all in ww2. We are mostly good and decent people.
But, I have never in my life seen raisins anywhere near Mac & cheese. I’ve never seen olives near it either.
Jokes aside, it was Canada that liberated the Netherlands. And they took in the Dutch royal family as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Netherlands_relations?useskin=vector
It’s actually quite a beautiful story to read about, for those who are interested.
That’s why we named the quintessential canadian winter warming move after them, the dutch oven.
Why do uptight Americans always go straight for “we saved your arse in WWII” whenever they feel the slightest bit offended someone riffed their country a tiny bit.
Oh? The greatest credible threat to the world? Not saying that dropping two nukes on the country that invaded and raped or killed uncountable numbers of people is heroic, but without us and the lend lease, Europe was fucking done for.
Also, none of us say arse.
Thirdly, we fucking did save your ass in ww2. Also in ww1. I’m literally never the ugly American in public, I’ve had Turkish taxi drivers in German ask me why I want to go to the American army base because I’m so not that person.
But give credit where it’s due.
Shut up, Grandpa. You’re embarrassing me.
You’re embarrassing yourself.
May all your mac and cheese have raisins in it.
ur funny
you saved nobodies ass and its EMBARRASSING youre taking ANY credit when you probably ask for help getting a milk jug out of the fridge.
you saved nobody. america now has saved nobody. soldiers arent heroes theyre people that want to survive stop glorifying the war and the us like we won a call of duty campaign. America wants its own people to die and they want to capitalize on it.
the military is for fuckn weirdos that like supporting oil tycoons and if youre forced to join then you have my utmost respect as that fucking sucks.
if ur gonna talk shit at least have something to back it up how many one arm pullups can you do, how longs ur planche, front lever etc? oh you cant do any of these things because youre a couch politician, soldier, and patriot i forgot. focus on something useful in your life. america doesn’t wanna suck your dick
I was in my second week of basic training when 9/11 happened, so don’t give me shit about supporting oil companies.
I did my time. 15 months in baghdad in 03 and 04. Got hit with 13 IEDs, shot at nearly every day. You just don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
Getting shot at comes with the job you willingly signed up for.
Yeah and the credit for WWII should be mostly given to the USSR.
Nationalism is a bitch.
Did you not realise the irony of making this comment?
They either full well do… or full well don’t. Either way, that’s entertaining!
Well, .world is definitely a US domain.
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