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    When a reporter asked how his five children were doing, the former president loudly exclaimed:

    “Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country.”

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    I can’t really comprehend how evangelical Christians find this man to be at all acceptable. In fact, he’s treated as some sort of savior. Major disconnect.

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      302 years ago

      Evangelical’s whole platform is divine authority to rule. It ties right in with colonialism, white supremacy, and fascism. “I’m right 'cause I say my god said so”. But I also believe that most Christian’s today would crucify Christ all over again as a communist.

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        divine authority to rule

        Yet, they don’t seem to accept Biden even though scripture is pretty clear:

        Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

        Romans 13:1‭-‬2

        I saw lots of crosses among the rebels on Jan 6.

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        most Christian’s today would crucify Christ all over again as a communist.

        I think they would call him the anti-Christ

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      Because in their eyes he’s the ‘non political’ politician just “saying what’s on all our minds”

      They would vote in a potato salad if they thought it was racist enough.

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      I suppose because they don’t really believe or understand what they claim to be their philosophies. Look at all the BS that Christians have happily indulged in over the centuries such as slavery, other racist oppression, child and spousal abuse and colonialism. The culture also trains people to accept whatever authority figures have to say. I think that some Christians who actually do engage their faith in an intellectual sense (to whatever extent that is really possible) have rejected him for being obviously immoral. I mean, the guy not just indulges in but personifies each of the seven deadly sins… sloth, greed, lust, vanity, pride, gluttony, and wrath.

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      It’s easy when you understand that their moral framework is actually completely hollow, and their independent moral intuition is completely atrophied to the point that they are unable to conduct even basic moral synthesis.

      Religion, as we know it, has always been a framework for social control and cooperation. The morality bits have always served this end, so it’s not really surprising that in our modern context they just dispense with any moral pretenses as soon as they are in obvious conflict with their power aspirations.

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        Yep, the thing they like about religion is handing all the messy decisions over to a central authority. Just put your trust in the right authority and you don’t have to worry about anything! Which authority is the right one? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you!

    • @[email protected]
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      If he’s not careful, he’s gonna get in trouble maybe someday kinda eventually probably 🤞🤞🤞

    • Flying SquidOP
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      Yes, using an almost exact Hitler quote is pushing the envelope because it’s a new level for him.

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        It’s so not a new level for him. Very fine people, great genetics, etc.

        • @[email protected]
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          Because accusing the media of dishonesty is a perfectly defensible thing to do. The way Trump did it was indefensible, and reminiscent of lugenpresse, but this is a far more specific use of Nazi language and concept.

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              42 years ago

              They’re just happy. I don’t see any Nazi armbands or flags, so therefore it isn’t really a Nazi dogwhistle.

              #/S

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            Ok, fair point. “Lying press” is a phrase harkening from the 19th C and questioning the integrity of the media in general is fine but for a president to do it as often as Trump did and for the obvious purpose of deflection and personal gain and whatever is, as you say, indefensible. Taken alone, “lying press” would be one thing but in context of everything else it’s hard to imagine he got the phrase from studying about its use prior to the 1930s.

            But I agree the blood thing is more unique to Nazi language and worldview. Trump continues to make it clearer and clearer what he is about.

            Hopefully anyone who cares to stop fascism isn’t waiting for him to start exterminating people en masse to be sure.

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        It isn’t. He’s started his campaign with fascist rhetoric. He’s just saying with the emotion of a deranged fool and not the balanced charisma he had before.

        Edit: Nvm. I watched the actual video. He’s still got that contemplative attitude. He was being interviewed, after all.

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            American carnage!

            What a perfect kickoff to a never-ending clownwreck of hypocritical idiot crooks.

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      Yes, he is pushing the envelope now. And in the past. And in the future. Asking Donald Trump to not be a trash fire is like asking gravity to suddenly reverse. It ain’t happening.

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          “Can you imagine if the Headless Horseman had a headless horse? It would be fucking chaos!”

          Another great quote and an unfortunately apt metaphor.

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      This is the one thing South Park has nailed recently.

      “Oh yeah, that was your line? Finger in the butt upsets you, but fucking immigrants to death is completely fine?”

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      42 years ago

      We all know what he thinks, but his hints/dogwhistles are ever pushing the envelope.

    • osarusan
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      And he almost crossed the line this time! Don’t worry, they’ve already moved the line 10 yard back to give him some extra space to push the envelope further.

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    it’s just gonna get more and more shrill as he swirls farther down that shitter bowl

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    562 years ago

    They’ve been using regular whistles instead of dog whistles since about 2016. Good job, journalism. You finally figured out what we all knew.

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    This azzclown is becoming more of a NPC from Wolfenstein every freaking day. He won’t spill blood himself but trust and believe he’ll be furthest in the rear slopping it all up.

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    “They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.”

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    Only a matter of time before he starts talking about a “Final Solution” to the immigrant problem…

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    Msnbc with the soft-pedal. Corporate news continuing to fail us at almost every turn.

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    The specific quote:

    “Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country.”

    From the article:

    Laura Barrón-López, White House correspondent for PBS, told viewers last night, “I checked with a historian, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, and she said that language that he’s using … echoes language used in Nazi propaganda by Adolf Hitler when Adolf Hitler actually said that Jewish people and migrants were ‘causing a blood poisoning’ of Germany.

    Additional site reporting the same (in an interview):

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-amplifies-violent-rhetoric-against-his-perceived-enemies-as-civil-fraud-trial-begins

    • Nougat
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      Let’s play everyone’s favorite game show - Trump or Hitler!

    • CarlsIII
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      Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from…

      …and we know they come from…

      Ok, logically, at least one of these is guaranteed to be a lie.

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        If you think of a trump speech like a LLM talking, you realize that he frequently doesn’t know where a sentence will go when he opens his mouth because he’s just stringing words and concepts together in a freeform flashy propaganda wordsalad.

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          Trump saw that episode of The Office and decided to emulate Michael Scott’s strategy for speaking.

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            Though he was more coherent-sounding back then, it’s possible he was an inspiration for that character, like how he inspired the character of Biff Tannen from Back to the Future.

            Hmm, looks like there is a connection!

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          LLMs nowadays have more long range structure than a Trump speech. Trump is more like an attention-free Markov chain.

          • Schadrach
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            Markov chains occasionally produce something clever or unexpected though. For example King James Programming (a Markov chain generator fed with KJV, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, and some of Eric S. Raymond’s writings) sometimes wrote some amusing things. Later Why’s Poignant Guide was added as an additional source, and still later started mixing in posts from a second generator fed the works of Lovecraft and Isabelle/HOL documentation.

            Investigate the shell’s here documents and Python’s triple-quote construct to find out the Almighty unto perfection

            they smote the city with the edge of the sword. 22:20 And one of his main motivations was the high cost of proprietary software houses.

            I know not why I went thither unless to pray, or gibber out insane pleas and apologies to the calm white thing that lay within; but, whatever my reason, I attacked the half-frozen sod with a desperation partly mine and partly that of a bounded natural functor (BNF)—a well-behaved type constructor for which nested (co)recursion is supported.

            2:4 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more like a controlled use of shared memory.

            Using Lisp we restrict or limit not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us.

            It even produced more coherent political notions than Trump:

            But the right to bear arms—you don’t want to edit

            All of those quotes are in the first 3 pages, out of 94.

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        Probably Steven Miller read it to him by his bed, late at night, after he was half-passed out from too many hamberders.