Mansplaining is sexist for condescension.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Edit: Misandrists love a double standard.
I’ve been told I mansplain things because I’ll ask someone if they understand something and then explain it anyways.
What they don’t realize is the amount of times I’ve asked someone if they understood something, have them say yes, then explain it, and they had no idea what I was talking about.
I’m not doing it to be condescending. I’m doing it so I know you actually understand what I’m saying.
I’m also autistic so it’s probably just that but it’s infuriating either way.
I find it gets a lot simpler, stupid people are adverse to being told anything by anyone who knows more.
I’ve never once felt condescended to just because someone was explaining something I understand, I feel vindicated that someone agrees with me and knows what I know so we share common grounds for communication.
The problem is people conflating actual condescension with explanation.
That was an explanation, if you still don’t understand I’ll grab some crayons and we can find out your favourite flavour.
That was condescension.
If anyone still needs help understanding I’m happy to take questions. Those behaving in good faith will be explained to, those choosing to be belligerent will be condescended to.
And those that think you can fight misogyny with misandry, well you need some more books in your kitchen.
That’s a joke.
Have you thought about just letting people fail, even if they say they understand and you know full well that they don’t? Failing is an important learning experience that often leads to a more positive learning outcome.
I had a tendency to do exactly as you described when I first started working in academic/corporate settings but someone else pointed this same thing out to me and it’s honestly been a gift that keeps on giving.
“That asshole knew I was wrong and did nothing!”
“That asshole must have explained it wrong!”
Some people will always have an excuse.
A condescension in which men have traditionally excelled, hence its association with men.
I think you may need some more experience with women. :)
Really, all this gender bickering is so infantile. We are mostly the same, but have different strengths and weaknesses. Guys are better at some things, worse at others, in general.
Women are not some flawless creature ok? You will see with time if you haven’t. :) Only in teenage Hollywood movies are they there as some form of meaning of life, and I guess it feels like that at that age.
Huh? I just meant that men have a tendency to explain things rather patronizingly and longwindedly to women. I said nothing about women being perfect.
And of course not all men all the time etc. But it happens.
Yeah ok, I just meant to say that I know many woman who explain things to their husband’s as if they are idiots, and they make no attempt at hiding that they think they are idiots. :)
Haven’t you had that in your life? Women will not hold back what they think. :)
Oh so you’re saying women can’t be as condescending as men? That is sexist! Women can do anything men can do just as well.
It’s hard to be humble when you’re just so goddamn good
Oh honey, bless your heart.
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And also, an erection is just pee build up
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I get the joke and I know this is gonna be a buzzkill but - is it expected that from now until the end of the universe there’ll be no ad with a man explaining something to a woman/women because of some sexist assholes in the past?
Maybe once we eradicate sexism and thus, mansplaining.
Reminds me of RGB’s answer to “When will there be enough women on the Supreme Court?”
Her answer was “When there are nine”. We’re a long way away from being able to have 9 women on the court without that being some controversial, remarkable thing. We’re not nearly as far away from 9 men on the court being uncontroversial and unremarkable.
It won’t be until the end of the universe. It’ll be until the stereotype stops ringing true. Which we are a very, very long way away from. Be real dude, it is not in the past even a little.
No, there’s literally one right there
It helps when all the women in the ad don’t look like they’re getting a mansplanation and wishes he would shut the fuck up.
Lol. The past? You’re being obtuse on purpose
I going to choose to 100% agree with you and also laugh at the post.
I had the same thought and hesitated before posting this, but the facial expressions on the women really made the image and I couldn’t help myself. Especially the woman on the right with blue sleeves.
Yeah, it would be good if everyone looked engaged and interested. Here everyone just looks miserable, which is funny even without the thought of mansplaining. It’s like “our courses are very boring and you wish you would’ve stayed in bed every day”.
Yeah, yeah, I didn’t mean to insult you or your post, I just had this thought about mansplaining in general.
And it’s true the picture is kind of … extreme from certain point of view :) I mean regardles of one’s opinion on mansplaining, but if ‘mansplaining’ as a term should have a picture … then this is a very good candidate :)
The one to the right of bluesleeves also appears to be looking at her with what looks like sympathy
They do look like they are all quite bored or at least barely interested and like he’s explaining something they know well, and therefore don’t need an explanation of.
This really looks like a stock photo for mansplaining that the university just copied.
Yeah I agree body language screams ‘we all already know this’
I mean as long as you don’t make an ad where it’s one man explaining to a group of only women who all look kind of annoyed, you’re probably going to be fine.
Yeah, throw a dude in there to be annoyed too, that way we get it’s not sexism.
Yes. That is expected.
As others have pointed out, there’s way more to the photo than just a man explaining something to a group of women.
“See ladies, it’s THIS long, I swear”
My own mansplaining degree from this college has not served me as well as I expected it would.
Mansplaining is such a pointlessly gendered redefining of condescension. Sometimes a guy is excited about something that you know about already. It doesn’t mean he’s doing it on purpose. He just wants to talk to somebody about a new thing. Or it could be a woman doing the same thing. Or it could be a woman being condescending. Delete mansplaining from your vocabulary.
It is a very real thing and it happens at every level of organization. Talk to pretty much any woman engineer or manager and you’ll be able to get very many stories of men explaining the woman’s area of expertise to them. I’ve seen it happening everywhere from office stand up meetings to academic conferences where people have specializations as narrow as evolutionary models of pro-social behaviors in apes.
Yes, many of us are enthusiastic about our areas of expertise. I can go on for paragraphs about the evolution of sociality. That’s a completely different thing than trying to explain what misogyny actually means when talking to a person with a PhD in Women’s Studies.
A co-worker once explained to an attractive lady who ran a cake shop how to make cheese cake. In great detail.
He’d just eaten a piece of excellent cheese cake that she’d made.
So if I have a bomb-ass cheesecake recipe, I am not allowed to share it with a fellow baker because they are attractive and the opposite sex?
I feel like some nuance must be missing here…
I have some knowledge in a specialized area of manufacturing products, for ease we will call this “machining” but I do reference something specific for this post (more specific than the typical “general” usage of the word.“machining.”)
People who do not work in my industry constantly tell me how to do my job, incorrectly I might add. I also happen to be a cis male. I’m not convinced this is a gender specific thing, I’m very certain of mine, and “mansplaining” as described by you happens to me, when supposedly it should not due to my gender.
So I suppose I ask, does it go from simply “confidently incorrect” to “sexist asshole” simply because the person was talking to a woman? Is it then misandrist when the explainer is a woman and the explainee is a male? “Confidently incorrect” can then only be accurately applied if both parties identify as the same gender, otherwise it is [gendered prefix]-splaining?
I think it’s fair to point out that there is a trend where men will do this to women in situations where they would never do it to another man. The way people use the term annoys me more often than not but I still think it’s a valid concept.
You want to be treated like a man (if you are a girl)?
I don’t understand why people are surprised there are gender differences. It’s supposed to be. And we are supposed to react to eachother, be different to eachother. It’s natural biologically and physically and this is completely obvious.
You think women don’t explain to men how something works a million times a day? I hear it so often I can’t even count. It’s perfectly natural.
I don’t understand why people are surprised there are gender differences.
You think women don’t explain to men how something works a million times a day?
You underestimate my need of superiority, every one will deserve my explanation, men, women, children, fish, cat and dog, and the explanation of my explanation and it’s prequel and sequel. Yep, I have adhd.
Get yourself one of these
I have a little yoda sitting on my desktop screen. Sometimes I treat it like a rubber ducky.
When you’re sitting in on a condescending lecture, how do you know that the person giving it wouldn’t be just as condescending towards a man as well though? I feel like there are two answers here:
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You don’t, and they could just be generally condescending.
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This is a trend with this man towards women, and in my opinion in the term “mansplaining” isn’t harsh enough. Call them what they are, misogynistic assholes.
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And since you’re a woman you would know.
You sound like a sexist.
Oh? Why is that?
You believe being a certain gender means my opinion is automatically wrong.
Agreed. I tend not to shut the hell up when you get me rolling on certain topics - it’s not a dig at the people I’m talking to, that’s just how getting excited do.
Now a days I just preface it with “feel free to shut me up” and if that disclaimer doesn’t do the trick, it’s on the other party. :P
It’s like double standard, it’s just hypocrisy.
Thank you for having a brain and using it. I would upvote this a thousand times.
Im a white guy who was born wealthy and raised in the Northeastern USA. I get one of those by birth, right?
Master’s in Mansplaining: Course Overview
- Introduction to Mansplaining: Foundations and Historical Context.
- Advanced Over-explaining Techniques: Ensuring They REALLY Get It.
- “Ackchually” 101: Perfecting the Art of Pedantic Interruption.
- Body Language and Mansplaining: Dominating Physical Space.
- Eye Rolling Resistance Training: Preparing for Expected Backlashes.
- Condescension Theory: Making Simple Topics Sound Complicated.
- Selective Hearing: How to Ignore When They Say, “I Know.”.
- Mansplaining in Digital Age: Dominating Online Conversations.
- Rhetorical Strategies: How to Talk in Circles and Never Concede a Point.
- Advanced Studies in ‘Well, Actually’: Beyond “Ackchually”.
- Mock Lectures: Practice on Unsuspecting Friends and Family.
- Case Studies: From Interrupting to Over-elaborating.
- Mansplaining Across Cultures: Making Assumptions Worldwide.
- Debunking Mansplaining Myths: Or How to Justify Everything.
- Thesis Project: A 10-Hour Lecture on a Topic Your Audience Already Understands.
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I’ll take an elective in man-spreading to better dominate the space.
The thesis project should really only be about the course, as it’s something you just learned that everyone in the class already knows.
First of all, well done.
Secondly, where do I sign up?
Ackchually, I know a thing or two about online enrollment, ahem, well, you see, signing up for a course at a university is a rather intricate process. But don’t worry, I’m here to guide you through it, step by step, even if it seems rather obvious. After all, I’m quite familiar with the nuances, and you might need some… guidance.
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Understanding Universities: The University of Adelaide, if you weren’t aware, is located in Adelaide, South Australia. It’s one of those places where they teach things. Yes, educational things.
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Internet Basics: You’d probably use something called the ‘internet’ to register. It’s this vast network of computers. You might’ve heard of it.
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Navigating the Web: Once on the ‘internet’, you’ll need to open a ‘web browser’. It’s like a portal to different websites. I recommend typing in ‘University of Adelaide’ into a search engine – that’s a tool to help you find things online.
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Locating the Right Page: Now, this can get tricky. Look for words like “enrollment”, “registration”, or “courses”. It’s almost like a treasure hunt!
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Reading Instructions: They will most likely have instructions. I’d advise reading them. Slowly. And then maybe once more for good measure.
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Filling Out Details: They will ask for your details. It’s a way to identify you, in case you didn’t know. Make sure you know your own name; it’s crucial!
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Submitting the Application: After filling everything in, you’ll need to submit it. There’s usually a button that says “submit” or “apply”. Give it a click.
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Payment: Ah yes, they do require money in exchange for these classes. It’s a system that’s been around for quite some time. Find your credit card; it’s a plastic thing with numbers.
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Waiting: After you hit the submit button, you might need to wait for a confirmation. It’s like when you order food and then… wait for it to be cooked.
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Confirmation: Eventually, you’ll get an email. It’s a digital letter sent to your email address. Check it, and there should be all the details about your successful (fingers crossed!) registration.
I know this may all sound terribly complex, but with time and perseverance, I believe you can master the intricate art of online registration. Good luck! 😉
Damn, you doubled down with it? I was starting to worry it was some shitty new bot behaviour
Lol ackchually… It cracks me the F up using that word and when I started typing got carried on. Man, today wasn’t a productive day at work I reckon.
Don’t go changing - you made it better for the rest of us. They were some solid efforts!
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Actually first, let me tell you about how you can get scholarships. I’ll explain…
This is all wrong.
Based on your username, you definitely seem like you should know a thing or two about mansplaining.
A very helpful degree
Master of Splaining
That’s why I like the internet. I can talk to people and explain things without anyone bringing up real life issues like that. - explained to you by a man
I think it’s basically trying to make men think there’s a bunch of women at the university who will pay attention to them.
Jokes on them, nobody cares
Do a masters…
Better than a masters in chick squabbling
