I get that it’s open source provided you use codium not code but I still find that interesting
VScode is proprietary and is a black box. The scary think for me is that you don’t know what the program is doing
I don’t
If you like vscode you can always use vscodium
Potato-potato. You support Microsoft if you use either.
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I’m thinking of ditching it. It’s been pretty awful lately. A lot of the official extensions I relied on have regressed to the point of being useless.
Also, releasing a FLOSS editor and then forcing you to use a proprietary build with telemetry if you want to debug .NET code is the most Microsoft thing ever.
ITT people having their minds blown by the fact the creator and the creation are two different things.
vim and neovim actually hold a pretty significant marketshare on Linux. a lot of developers use MacOS or Windows, so what does it matter if one more small thing is proprietary? It obviously does matter, but people don’t think of it that way.
Emacs will be there for you, once vscode gets abandoned.
I was using Sublime Text for many years. Even after Atom came out I still used ST3. However, ST development is understandably slow compared to VSCode and it is now so far behind that loyalty isn’t enough of a reason to continue using it.
I’ve been using sublime since forever as well; Atom never really felt like a valid alternative because it was so so slow. VSCode still feels kinda slow but not to a degree that gets to be annoying. Still I could never get used to it. It breaks some system keyboard shortcuts that I use heavily (alt + arrow keys for example) and takes forever to parse files (to make a list of all functions in the project for example).
I wish sublime would update more often and have all the cool new things that come to VSCode every other week, but at the end of the day it still works better and doesn’t really lack anything that’s actually useful (except maybe for a few months before st4 came out).
It breaks some system keyboard shortcuts
And so does Sublime Text: CTRL+SHIFT+U for inserting Unicode characters doesn’t work in it. :(
I recently switched from ST4 to VS Code (Codium actually) because of this and because it’s easier to set up a Python debugger.
I would imagine that setting up a python debugger would be the same on both since sublime also use vscode’s debug adapter protocol.
I love Jetbrains. As a company, how they treat their users, the way they do subscription models (subscribe yearly, and if you unsubscribe, keep the license for the version you have still, including the ability to re-download that version), and just the prodding quality overall.
I wouldn’t say I “hate” Microsoft (or Apple, or Google), but I recognize the harm they do to the free software movement and to the technology world in general. I wouldn’t avoid a good quality free software just because it’s made by a GAFAM company (as long as I stick with the free parts and avoid proprietary extensions), just like I wouldn’t use proprietary software just because it’s not made by GAFAM.
The point isn’t to hate GAFAM but to seek freedom and control over your computing.
Because the hate is based on their shitty OS. They did a fairly good job with VSCode. Our hate isn’t blind.
I don’t use VSCode for the exact reason. I used VSCodium but switched to Neovim. I see this problem more with GitHub (also owned by Microsoft). I was not able to get off GitHub yet, but I’m planning to switch to Codeberg probably. I heard that GitLab is also closed source?
You csn hate a company and like a product. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
This was a tough lesson for me to learn when Pirates of the Caribbean came out. 😠
I’ll just leave this right here.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/GI6CfKcMhjY
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Well it’s really noob friendly. The introductory courses in programming all tell you to use it and it takes some time and experience to find alternative editors that 1. you like better, and 2. won’t confuse you more than the course itself does.
I used to use VSCodium and the Vim extension. Then I downloaded Neovim and started configuring it, but I was never really satisfied with the config. Then I found Doom Emacs. It was pretty much the thing I tried turning Neovim into.
But I wouldn’t recommend Doom Emacs to a first-year student that is still learning the fundamentals.
Edit: typos
I was using Atom, but that died. I work with both Python and Fortran, and VSCode works for my usecase, but I’m open to suggestions.
I switched to neovim. You can also use a text editor for more basic stuff
Yet most project uses GitHub too you know…
My bigger problem is many swear on FLOSS, but using Apple is OK. Go to a FLOSS conference and there are Macs everywhere.
It’s undeniable that Microsoft has had positive influences on the opensource world with language servers, debug adapter protocol, an inbrowser editor that is seemingly embedded in any website with a code editor, cross-platform C# (maybe that’s a curse though, I dunno), linux contributions, and probably more I’m not aware of. Apple… I dunno. Vendor lock-in and more electronic trash?
