Well actually not that much. Two things. First, some trauma can be dealt with thanks to your support circle. Second, the thing is our experience of others is never representative of the overall society. You could look at my social circle and claim it as an argument. But that is not taking in account that my circle is small and not made of average people.

Lastly. Everyone suffered a cold once, they were not damned, not everyone is constantly sick. Though you wouldn’t say there is no difference between sick and healthy people. Still everyone will go to the doctor once. In my country that is this approach much closer to physiological medicine that mental health professional promote.

I get what you’re saying, and caretakers certainly deserve support, even (especially!) when they’re talking about wanting to kill their own child, even if for no other reason than the child’s safety.

IMO Autism Speaks’ biggest issue is that their money comes from marketing autism as a horrible disease that affects only or primarily children, which only increases stigma against autistic people of all ages. They also have the problem of having no autistic members involved in a meaningful capacity in the organization, and AFAIK the only autistic member of their board of directors left because they were essentially ignored. That absolutely flies in the face of decades of disability advocacy, where a common refrain is “nothing about us without us.”

TL;DR: caretakers deserve support but Autism Speaks is super awful.

I didn’t know until I saw it getting trashed on the autism subreddit and asked why… So keep getting the word out!

that’s due to the way society treats autistic people.

So when is that going to change

supposedly

actually everyone treat others like shit. But what NT have is a much stronger upport circle and fewer difference.

By fewer difference I mean that you cant pick on someone that everyone around him does : A boss can’t really bully a NT for using implicite dicourse when all of their collegues does the exact same, they would immediately realise something is wrong. The average NT knowing jackshit about autism, it can be easy to trick them into thinking that ND should “just make an effort” to understand implicite discourse.

That’s sad part, we are technically all targeted with the same amount of flak so if you are slightly out of cover, you get blasted away

can add the healthy for white and straight if you’re in the USA. Also just methodologically poc are faced with very different risk with racially motivated crimes and the fact that ethnic getthoisation create strong social support structures will help curb suicidal tendencies.

Even if the struggles can be similar, the supplementary problem with LGBTQ+, is loneliness. There are actually very few of them, so finding people like you that understand your struggles is very difficult. That really hit me when I talked for the first time with people leading association supporting LGBTQ, most of the work is reaching out to people to tell them they are not alone

The whole philosophy is based on a 5yo absolutist idea of “bad” or “harm” and is meaningless to anyone not dead

Pretty sad that providing a better life for children than we had is apparently a controversial opinion.

Correct. It is only “eugenics” in the figurative sense, not the literal.

I said parents are selfish for having kids. You can try to downplay it all you want, but you don’t have a kid for this future magical mystical kid. You have a kid for your own wants and needs over everything else. Just because having kids is an accepted action in society doesn’t make it not selfish. And since you think of “selfishness” as a bad thing, this makes your brain scramble and your cognitive dissonance go into overdrive causing you to come up with completely inept retorts like I’m “selfish” for simply existing and using resources that the Earth clearly has as I’m using them.

LOL what a complete lack of self awareness. That was a self-own.

Antinatalism can conserve resources by providing the resources to those who already exist rather then creating a new life.

Wow, you seem fun. Hope you aren’t using any resources!

Why stop at humans? Ducks are pretty reprehensible as well.

And the less said about koalas, the better.

Dude if people really have such a problem with life, they can in fact opt out of it at pretty much any point down the line.

I think your perspective about life is blinded by pessimism, and you’re treating that pessimism as absolute fact. Many people view life as a wonderful thing, are thrilled to exist for the time that they do, and see creating a new life to experience the wonders of living as a gift.

Humans are a plague upon both other humans and this planet as a whole

You’re sounding like Agent Smith from the matrix. Come on. Unplug from the negative feedback loop for a bit.

According to some predictions, climate change will cause up to 3 billion refugees by the end of the century.

Those are some very optimistic predictions.

Here are some fun links from the World Economic Forum and the United Nations: Global freshwater demand will exceed supply 40% by 2030 and 90% of global top soil and arable land is at risk of depletion by 2050.

And to add to all this, the ice caps will likely be melted completely in the next decade causing the Blue Ocean Event, where massive amounts of previously reflected solar radiation will instead be absorbed by the oceans, causing the release of huge amounts of methane from the sea bed and the earth to cook in it’s own atmosphere.

This is a good explanation for anyone interested in further reading on the BOE. Look this up for yourselves with other sources though.
(You’ll want to find out how much ice coverage is left at the poles, how much we’ve lost this year so far, and the loss projection for if the next 5 years are as hot as 2023. Then look up what will happen to the earth with all the unreflected solar radiation we’ll be absorbing without the ice caps).

Billions of people are going to die in the next 30 years due to climate collapse. There may not be 3 billion of us left to be clinate refugees by the end of the century.

you think someone wronged you by allowing you to be alive.

You don’t know if said persons are gonna have a bad life, you just don’t know.

Autism can be bat for some, maybe more than few, but is not for everybody, Humanity always has faced existencial crisis, we will fix climate change on way or another.

People are born neurodivergent but they are not born suicidal, the reason suicide is the leading cause of death is because we are a minority that is not well understood by the dominant majority, that is where almost all the hearth comes from.

Schizofrenia is also understood as a form neurodivergency and has quite some overlap with autosm. Most people know it as a horrible, scary mental illness but this is only the case in modern societies. Where in a big city people experience hallucinations of yelling, monsters and many intens negative emotions in natural communities they experience quite the opposite, visions of ancestors, angels, positive emotions and artistic beauty in things.

Instead of conceding that ‘life is pain, so we should not live,’ we should advocate that ‘society is inflicting pain, and we must reform it to prevent such suffering.’”

Antinatalism is evil because it goes against what God instructed.

“Things” were not observable by anything with the capability to designate them as such, so no they were not “fine” in any meaningful sense of the word.

You’re literally doing the speech the villain does to make him seem reasonable.

I am literally begging you to find a therapist.

They’re not advocating for a lower population. They’re advocating for human extinction.

As in, we should all let the torch of consciousness burn out. I don’t know if I’d call it evil, but it’s definitely one of those severely misguided takes that you almost exclusively see on the internet.

The global population will stabilize on it’s own before the end of the century.

How did you read “voluntary extinction” and arrive at “less population?”

sounds more like apathy and loss of hope to me.

Yeah, this. My biggest issue with the fundamental anti-natalist position is that it’s a totally blackpilled one that ultimately devalues any positive experiences life brings when compared with even the potential for any bad thing to happen, regardless of magnitude.