I gave it a fair shot for about a year, using vanilla GNOME with no extensions. While I eventually became somewhat proficient, it’s just not good.

Switching between a few workspaces looks cool, but once you have 10+ programs open, it becomes an unmanageable hell that requires memorizing which workspace each application is in and which hotkey you have each application set to.

How is this better than simply having icons on the taskbar? By the way, the taskbar still exists in GNOME! It’s just empty and seems to take up space at the top for no apparent reason other than displaying the time.

Did I do something wrong? Is it meant for you to only ever have a couple applications open?

I’d love to hear from people that use it and thrive in it.

  • Espi
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    52 years ago

    I love it. I have used it for very long time with and without extensions. I love the overview in particular, pressing meta and having everything presented to you is fantastic. I used it by mostly running maximized windows, then each time I wanted to switch to another program I pressed meta and clicked on the app I wanted. I used workspaces to keep separate groups of programs for each workflow separate too.

    If I used extensions it was small things like Appindicators and small cosmetics like blur my shell.

    Now, I don’t think GNOME scales very well if you use tens of windows at once, you would need to use too many workspaces, which are slow to navigate, and/or have tiny windows in the overview, which are hard to click because their position is unpredictable unlike traditional taskbars, where the programs are always visible and never move on their own.

    My workflow never involved too many windows, so I never had problems with it.

    Something else I wish would change is that the top bar should go away or actually do something other than show the time. I would say either just take it away entirely and only show it in the overview. Or turn the clock into a notch. Or just make it a half-traditional taskbar, with the clock and options moved to the right and the left side showing as many programs as they fit in thin bars.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    I try Gnome every year or so, and the first time I encounter the Save As dialog defaulting my text input to the goddamn Search box instead of the filename box, I shut it down and uninstall it. That just drives me around the bend.

  • @[email protected]
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    62 years ago

    I fell in love with Gnome 3 when it first came out and havent looked back. I dont miss a taskbar because I just use the keyboard shortcuts to move between workspaces and alt+tab to switch programs. Gnome seems to be more efficient the less you use the mouse which is my preferred M.O. anyways.

  • tio
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    12 years ago

    @shapis I agree. I used Gnome for several years before switching to XFCE. Gnome feels like a great DE for people who do not do a lot of things on their computers. I normally have 5 or so workspaces and on each a dozen of apps open. Some apps are workspace-specific, some are available on all workspaces. You are right, multitasking when you do so much is a pain in Gnome. And I really really tried to like it.

    Not to mention that you need a lot of extensions to make it useful.

    Gnome does great in terms of animations and overall look, but not very practical and feels very non-customizable.

    XFCE looks awful out of the box and the lack of animations is quite annoying. But you can make it look good - see our custom distro based on XFCE - TROMjaro. And if you give XFCE a try you will realize how sane it is. You can customize it a ton without being overwhelmed by thousands of options. You right click on panels and apps and you get sane options to move or tweak them.

    As for workspaces I personally use them as “names” on the top bar and can switch between workspaces so fast, almost like tabs in a browser.

    Not as fancy as Gnome, but boy this is really useful. And practical.

    I’ve also added mouse gestures on my desktop via Easystroke so I can move windows on any workspace via these gestures. So easy.

    So I’d say that Gnome looks fancy, and it is very cool for those who do not do a lot of work on their machines and have to switch between many work spaces and lots of apps. And I’d say XFCE is extremely underrated, perhaps because out of the box it looks terrible. Maybe try TROMjaro…see how it goes.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      112 years ago

      Surely you dont have 10 workspace for 10 windows.

      Am I not supposed to?

      This is kind of the problem, if you add multiple apps in a random workspace, the only way I can think of to know which apps are in the background of that workspace is to memorize it. Which feels bad having to use my brain for that instead of focusing on whatever I’m doing.

      If vanilla GNOME doesnt work for you, just install extension or move to another DE.

      I’m trying dash to panel now, it seems to fix quite a few of my gripes.

      • @[email protected]
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        the only way I can think of to know which apps are in the background of that workspace is to memorize it

        If you press Meta key and scroll, it shows all windows in each workspace. I think that’s also in vanilla, not one of my many extensions, haha.

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    I can live in GNOME and only use the defaults. It just takes time to adjust my workflow. What helps me with whatever I’m using or whatever I’m doing (in life), is to not focus on the things “missing” and just make the best of what I have (to work with).

    Since two years I’m on KDE but not because I was fed up with GNOME. I just wanted to try something else. Pretty much using stock KDE only that I moved the taskbar to the top of the monitor.

  • V6277
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    I do, except I always enable minimize and maximize because it seems foolish to me to have those disabled by default. It’s really smooth and whenever I have too many windows open, the overview makes it easy to find what I’m looking for. Initially I was against hiding the dock in the overview but I decided to give it a try one day and I actually ended up enjoying it not being visible.

    What’s funny is that I actually end up using the overview instead of alt-tab most of the time because it’s faster for my workflow, and the default window switcher for apps with different windows open is BAD.

    I’ve gotten so used to the workflow that I find myself dragging my mouse to the top left corner of the screen on Windows lol and painfully wait the extra second it takes to open the Windows overview when swiping up with three fingers on a trackpad.

  • @[email protected]
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    Yes. With many windows open but I don’t use workspaces. Alt-Tab, and Alt-“above tab” is enough to me. And you can always super, first chars of the app name, enter.

  • @[email protected]
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    I like it, even though I’m not sure if I would call it the GNOME official workflow (is that even a thing?). I usually don’t get close to having 10 applications open. I tend to work with about 1 to 3 workspaces with various applications based on my needs. Furthermore, I keep the windows non-maximized which helps me condense more information yone screen

    • @[email protected]OP
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      12 years ago

      Mhmm. It feels great while I’m up to 3 workspaces. It just gets sketch when you have, an IDE + browser + pdf reader for documentation + one or two communication apps + a drawing board + … you get the idea.

  • @[email protected]
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    -72 years ago

    I love gnome Click activities, go to the screen you want, click the program you want… so simple what you are on about man.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    I used to use GNOME with minimal plugins (like adding a tea timer or my local ip to the top bar), until they changed the vertical layout. It was a while ago when I was going though some older issues I posted on the GNOME issue tracker and I realized I haven’t used the desktop switching feature since they changed it. They move horizontally now and it just doesn’t work for me on 3 monitors. It’s like the adjacent monitors switch into each other, but they don’t.

    Now I use dash to dock. I tried a plugin to reinstate vertical desktops but it’s buggy as hell.

    Also, GNOME doesn’t remember window states and positions anymore since the latest version, which annoys the hell out of me. I feel like every new version is equal parts forwards and backwards. Things get better and worse.

    One final fuck you to the guy who decided that dead keys and diacritics should be shown while you’re creating them. That’s decades of muscle memory out the window and switching between other os’s just got worse because of it.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    Yes, I like the default workflow. I always have particular applications on the same workspaces, and I close them as I need to. Sometimes I have multiple, usually a maximum of two on one workspace, because I can ALT+TAB through them. I like that the top bar is uncluttered. I don’t use the dock at all, but Activity Overview is sometimes useful. I can operate the desktop completely with my keyboard. It’s also very minimal without too many options, and it looks pretty. I find it very usable.

    The only annoying thing was needing to manually create shortcuts inside of dconf for workspaces 5-10. I really don’t know why they force you to do that…

  • methodicalaspect
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    112 years ago

    I can’t get used to vanilla GNOME. First things I always install are Dash to Panel, ArcMenu, Caffeine, AppIndicator support, and Pop Shell. It’s basically Cinnamon with a tiling/stacking toggle and without the need for a “restart if it crashes” setting.

  • carly™
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    32 years ago

    I’m not really using “vanilla” GNOME since I have a number of extensions, but the only one that really modifies the workflow is Tray Icons: Reloaded.

    That said, while it’s definitely not for everyone, I’m very comfortable with it. I like that everything feels “out of my way” unless I need it, and I find the Activities view to be easier for finding a minimized program at a glance than a taskbar.