• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        332 years ago

        Oh shit I just remembered she’s Puerto Rican. Lol the experience of oppression truly does not bring solidarity, for many theory and education are required.

        • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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          322 years ago

          A lot of US latinos are often the oppressors while cosplaying as one of us actually living under their thumb. Explains why so many are quick to claim indigenous ancestry even though they would probably be claiming European ancestry if they lived in Latin America.

          • davi [he/him]
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            152 years ago

            Explains why so many are quick to claim indigenous ancestry even though they would probably be claiming European ancestry if they lived in Latin America.

            I’m DEEPLY fascinated by this phenomenon since it has such stark implications about my heritage to know that I’m 2/3rds indigenous by DNA but do not qualify as such under any rules in any location and family lore has zero mention on it.

            • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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              Are you mestizo? I am and even live near the indigenous group that I’m descended from. But I only speak two Euro languages (Spanish and English) and can only speak their language at the level of a middle schooler.

              A lot of US latinos are mestizo and probably claim to be indigenous because of likely strong indigenous features that they share. My issue with this is that they’re culturally anything but. They speak English and/or Spanish only, have no real knowledge of the group and just latch onto the most “badass” ones like Mayans or Aztecs, and have never once stepped foot in those communities. That to me is what it means to be indigenous more than bloodlines. It’s something you really have to be born and raised in.

              There’s also a lot of white supremacy in Latin American cultures and many mestizos like to claim European ancestry to seem superior. Older generations will even outright marry white people that have the stereotypical features of Western beauty. My own brother is like this and married a blonde English woman with blue eyes and pale skin. He specifically went out of his way to date foreign women with those features.

          • uralsolo [he/him]
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            town elects first latino mayor

            it’s a white guy with bolivian grandparents

            every time

              • RedDawn [he/him]
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                72 years ago

                Anybody from any Latin American country can describe themselves as Latino, so if anything, it is an umbrella term for a number of nationalities, neither a race or an ethnicity.

                You can be white and Latino, or black and Latino, or indigenous and Latino or mestizo and Latin, the same way you could be any of those things and “American” (as in born in the United States).

        • Rojo27 [he/him]
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          for many theory and education are required.

          But according to AOC, theory and education are bougie thingsmaybe-later-kiddo

    • @[email protected]
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      422 years ago

      Because ultimately the NIMBY type doesn’t care about what happens to brown people so they aren’t going to sweat the fact that the US subsidizes apartheid at the cost of tens of billions of dollars per year.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      482 years ago

      gotta look at it in the context of the information people have available to them. A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice. There are few if any voices countering this in the major media channels, which almost all liberal channels and all GOP channels fully on-board. European countries have been engaged in racial violence and discrimination against Muslims, especially Arabs and North Africans, for centuries.

      It’s a Plato’s cave thing. They’re not deeply weird people like us who have access to information that counters Western propaganda. Western propaganda is their whole world. And even then, a lot of people know or suspect it’s bullshit.

      • Autonomarx [he/him]
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        302 years ago

        Except even if you only go by the major capitalist media outlets you can see that they constantly fucking lie to justify war and imperialism. They lied about the Nayirah testimony, about WMD in Iraq, about attempted genocide in Libya, about Afghanistan having anything to do with 9/11, and so on. There are people totally alienated from the contemporary political landscape of the West because they understand that everyone only does bad things but they don’t know how to stop it. The ‘people’ that swallow it whole recognize their interest in continued white supremacy and choose to reinforce the belief that it’s good.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        332 years ago

        A lot of people in the West have been fed a steady stream of dehumanizing propaganda for decades that positions all Muslims and Arabs as barely human monsters who engage in all kinds of brutal and cruel violence purely out of malice.

        until it comes to Xinjiang. Then it’s opportunist time.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      362 years ago

      If Israel was an enemy of the West and not a strong ally, 90% of Americans would be supporting Palestine just on state propaganda alone.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      One of the best selling musicals in the US consists of POC dancing and rapping happily as slave owners.

      They will act all tough and invoke “antifa” when it comes to American WWII soldiers. But when they see genocide and oppression happening in front of their eyes, and publicly supported by Israeli politicians, they will close their eyes.

      It’s like how Joseph Smith and Mormonism give us a modern account of how a mass religion is formed, and still millions of people support it despite the inhumane crimes. Israel is one of the countries that show us on our phones and screens how an apartheid state is formed and run, and millions of people still support it.

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    zero citing example of the ‘‘hatred and antisemitism’’ in the article by the way.

    Just for the info, Pelosi was a civil right activist before going into politics. Just like how AOC pretended to have helped unionize some workplace.

    kicking the ladder for your constituents is not a bug, it’s a feature

    • the_kid [he/him]
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      322 years ago

      Pelosi was also in the “progressive caucus” and called for universal healthcare at some point. AOC is Pelosi, I’ve been saying this for years.

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          122 years ago

          che-smile she really does.

          Pelosi is a ghoul, but damn if sbe wasn’t great at being a ghoul. Did nothing but enrich herself and actively make the world worse, and had the voteball enjoyers clapping for her while she ddd it

        • wild_dog [they/them]
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          72 years ago

          give it time. She already serves the same purpose that Pelosi used to. So many centrists and “progressives” point to her as an example that actually progressive politics are possible within the Democratic Party and use her as a cudgel against left wing criticisms of the party. She already funnels money from progressive donors towards centrist democrats. Sure, she may never be the Speaker of the house but I could definitely see her selling out more to get into some leadership position.

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            42 years ago

            100-com right here. She was the 2nd biggest fundraiser after Pelosi herself. Whether she enters leadership or not, she has the real power which is money.

            The fact that she has that money, that we know she hands over to centrists, makes it clear that all her whinging about needing to play ball with leadership because of commitee appointments or whatever is completely empty.

            She was on the ghoul track her whole life. Her 6 month tour as a bartender was a stolen valor photo op, no different than ratboys.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      392 years ago

      zero citing example of the ‘‘hatred and antisemitism’’ in the article by the way.

      They don’t because the US media and politicians have long made an effort to make it so that the public equivocates support for the Palestinian people with antisemitism. So simply asking the that Palestinians not be treated like animals is antisemitic. It’s sickening.

      • Fishroot [none/use name]
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        302 years ago

        When you try to ask the UN to give Palestinian authority some semblance of justice, that’s diplomatic terrorism

        When you do BDS, that’s economical terrorism.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      632 years ago

      I was one of the last holdouts here. I was still weakly defending her maybe a couple years ago, but definitely not anymore. I actually can’t recall the last time anyone here had anything positive to say about her.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          282 years ago

          Nah, she completely sold out and is looking like the next generations Pelosi after like 4 years.

          At least it took bernie a few decades and multiple presidential runs for the dnc to completely neuter him.

          • zephyreks [none/use name]
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            112 years ago

            Even today Bernie is at least bucking the establishment line… Not enough to make waves, but enough for a few ripples.

  • squeegeeman [he/him,any]
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    102 years ago

    at least now i will never make the mistake of saying anything nice about her or defending her. fucking piece of shit.

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      162 years ago

      Haven’t you considered that the fragile ego of some Zionists are more important than Palestinian untermensch?

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    562 years ago

    Lol, throwing around solidarity while demonizing people that just want their rights respected. Fuck off lib.