For my “convenience” and because in this way they can show ads and clickbait
Also: I SET A FUCKING GROUP POLICY THAT DISABLES THE SEARCH BAR; WHY THEY FUCKING IGNORE IT???
Me running ClassicShell/OpenShell since Windows 8:
When using Microsoft products and accepting their incomprehensible terms and conditions, you have no say and your opinion doesn’t matter.
Group policy doesn’t matter, domain administrator, GPO rules, all of it- none of it matters.
You’ll get dogshit and you will like it. (Friendly reminder that it was extremely overpriced also) That’s the tax you pay for being in their horrible, horrible “ecosystem” from hell. Enjoy! Grease up or take it dry, you’re “taking it” either way.
Why all my window machines use ltsc fucking “feature” updates
But don’t you want to have what I’ve come to enjoy: Printer roulette?
Win, “printer”, enter…come on Printer and Scanner control panel, baby wants a new printer queue to kill that stuck job…dammit edge, no I don’t want to search bing for an inkjet.
Win, “printer”…, enter…come on Control Panel, you can do it…HP Smart Panel, you piece of crap
Yeah, same shit happened on my (W10) laptop today (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
Luckily, I rarely have to deal with this shit since I daily drive Fedora on my desktop PC, and only dual-boot into W11 when I want to play games on Game Pass.
Windows 11 Home did away with group policies for this specific reason I bet.
editNarrator: They didn’t
really looking forward to getting another SSD and just installing linux on it so I don’t have to deal with that kind of bullshit anymore. The bullshit I will be dealing with will not be privacy related, just compatibility related.
That’s probably the best way to try it. First get comfy and still have a fallback solution if you don’t like it.
Do it. I did that a year ago. Totally worth it.
which distro do you recommend for gaming? I’m looking at fedora games, drauger OS or Pop_OS
My gaming rig is running Nobara Project right now and I’d highly recommend it for gaming centric use.
sounds good! thanks for the recommendation, I’ll have a look :)
I set up a test rig with Fedora to see how the gaming went and didn’t have any issues with Steam or a handful of AAA games. Of note though, my test machine has an AMD GPU so I didn’t have to deal with any Nvidia driver shenanigans.
team red here as well :D
I cannot strongly recommend enough pop_os. For reference, it was my last distro of choice, but its been my all time favorite out of 10+ I’ve tried in 2 years
Wasn’t really in the market for a new one but guess I’ll be checking it out now n
Pop_OS is fine as long as you don’t try to install Steam :)
I’ve swapped from windows to Pop about a month ago and haven’t had any issues with Steam
sounds promising! thanks!
If you have no choice but to use Windows download Microsoft 10 LTSC iot, lock down all policies and use Shutup10 and WPD to remove all telemetry. Blackbird can also block specific Windows 10 addresses that phone home but it’s better to just get a third party firewall and block them because Blackbird can sometimes break things.
I also was able to remove Microsoft EDGE forever using this. Follow the steps exactly:
https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6#file-uninstalledge-ps1
If an update you want forces edge back then just follow the steps again. If Edge “remnants” remain, use bulk crap uninstaller on any leftovers.
I’ve never had the search bar return or anything I didn’t want to return on a locked down Windows 10 LTSC installation except Edge, and that’s easy to remove. You can even turn off updates for a while if you want to, but I still update because you should.
If you have hardware that needs Windows 11, they’re releasing an LTSC version of that, too soon.
O&O shutup 10, get it and use it, you’ll love your windows machine once you disable the bullshit
I just spent more than an hour fixing this shit, everyone was right. It forced search bar on LTSC also. Which I thought was against Windows 10 LTSC policies for Enterprise editions? Or at least, against it’s very core functions? lol
I switched to Linux when the “We’ve scheduled your free update to Windows 10!”-like popup started appearing again and again on my Win7 machine even though I disabled it. I didn’t like not having a choice and they only got worse from there. Meanwhile, you have full control over every part of a Linux system. You can even uninstall the update manager if you feel like it.
And when you feel really adventurous….
You can delete the kernel….
Everybody does it at least once, just to see. Usually it’s just to see. MS support reps still learning the power of grep …. “Where are the backups” is both a question you want to hear … and really don’t want to hear. (At the start, it says they’re… at least thorough… an hour to the end of the patch window… not so much.)
But that would upset Pacman and you don’t want to upset Pacman, do you?
Remove the update manager? Remove the bootloader and all kernels if you want to - you might if you’re preparing a container image, it won’t stop you. Remove glibc and init? Fine, if that’s what you want - might have no need for those if you’re prepping it up for embedded.
The price of having a computer that does exactly what it’s told is that you have to know what to tell it. But that’s well worth while.
We’re approximately the same vintage; I bought a laptop with Windows 8.1 and, long story short, said “Absolutely not.”
They’re getting there with windows 11… first it was ‘hey you’re compatible with windows 11’ now they’ve stepped up to a full screen non-skippable screen a big ‘upgrade to windows 11’ but still with a button to stay on windows 10 hidden in the corner. It’s only a matter of time before that button disappears.
I’m almost glad my current hardware doesn’t support Windows 11. No matter how much it tries, it can’t force me to have different hardware.
I remember a lot of folks waking up one day to find their system had borked itself overnight installing Win 10 without their permission. It doesn’t matter to Microsoft if it’ll actually work.
I tried the Win11 compatibility app once, it said i wasn’t compatible due to some BIOS settings I needed to change. Nah, I’m good, and it hasn’t bugged me to upgrade since.
I made mine deliberately incompatible by disabling the fTPM but started getting the upgrade prompts recently.
It is literally asking you for your permission if I understand the post.
It’s the equivalent of asking “Would you like to cancel? Are you SURE you’d like to cancel? Are you REALLY sure? Take a look at our new features and make sure you’d actually like to not cancel. You said yes - so you’d like to not cancel? Okay!”
An extremely forceful and dishonest way to keep people on the feature. Should require just one No to permanently keep it off.
yes but it’s opt-in instead of opt-out. If i click on the desktop it’s dismissed and the search bar setting is reverted to their preferred setting. If really needed, should have been the opposite like “did you know that you missed out on the latest spambar? Click here to make the change permanent”
Ok. So it still wasn’t forced?
Ok. So it still wasn’t forced?
users never change default settings. So, for all the people where i removed the bar, they got it back with this update
In my case it said something like “you apparently don’t know how great our search bar is, so we reactivated it. You can disable it again if you want to”
I see now.
What language is this?
And what am I missing?
Google says it’s Italian.
Is it? 🤌🤌
Thanks. I tried Spanish and Portuguese and it made no sense.
Italian still makes no sense. I don’t understand the OP.
The ? search has been added to the application bar. Do you want to keep this change?
Keep | Cancel
I think the thing that I marked with ? just says box (so search box), but I am not 100% sure.
Hopefully this helps and I haven’t fucked up the transation, I has been a long time since I last spoke Italian.
Thank you so much for your post.
No worries!
I actually just got the same nonsense on my work laptop so I can now actually give the “official” English translation:
Search box has been added to your taskbar. Want to keep the change?
Keep it | Undo
Close enough
Good translation. It is indeed “the search box”, or rather “the box of search”
“the box of search”
I don’t know why, but this made me laugh.
Thank you for confirming that I didn’t mess it up too badly :)
italian, it says “we added back the search bar on the taskbar, keep or cancel?” If you click anywhere else except the grey “annulla” button, for example you click on the desktop, it assumes “yes i love the search bar, keep it”, and is set back to the state microsoft wanted to be.
From an update downloaded last night
Thank you.
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Thank you.
Hahaha!
I literally cannot comprehend how you can use windows without the search bar. Its a total clusterfuck otherwise imo.
it’s a useless duplicate that takes useful screen estate. You can open the start menu, and if you start typing, the search bar appears. It doesn’t need to waste 20% of the taskbar for that
But anyway, the search is broken. It gives priority to web searches, so if you want to search “libreoffice”, to open “libreoffice writer”, it suggests “libreoffice download” which is pointless. I replaced it with “powertoys run” and now i get useful results.
some people don’t know that, and it isn’t made obvious, so having it by default on is great i think… but, enabling it at random for no reason? that’s ridiculous
It’s poor UI but also I think it’s a sign that the userbase has been coddled too much with things like this. Even Google adding the search bar widget to their homescreen of Android is kind of an illusion since it doesn’t need to be shaped that way. But an entire generation has been programmed to type into a little empty field with a search button that they don’t think of alternatives anymore.
Windows 8 thru 11 are trying to add sleeker and more intuitive interface skins to be more usable for the masses but the underlying OS is still the same. Accessing additional options that a legacy Windows user uses all the time just takes you back to the old menus. It feels so lazy that each major windows iteration feels like a new skin on top of windows xp/2000 because not much really has changed since then other than the bloat and a few cute features that could’ve been done with a 3rd party app.
Obviously being a little reductive here but with how windows 11 looks, I would’ve imagined it being actually different. But as soon as I right click something and view more options, it’s clear it’s still the same stuff once the old right click menu pops up from underneath.
Aaah i see what you mean even though i dont really care about taskbar real estate off with its head.
If you hit start and type, it has the same function
This is what I do since windows 8.1
Thats how i use it too. Is there anything more to it ?
Whether I want to open a document I open once a week, or a program that I use every day, the search takes a minimum of 10 seconds to turn out a result, after first consulting its server for Firefox websites. It is useless beyond useless.
Idk about docs and stuff but for apps the win button-appname-return sequence is pretty much a matter of 1-2 seconds for me
Even if you hide the search bar, you can hit the windows key and start typing your search query. The search bar doesn’t have to constantly take up screen real estate in the taskbar.
Hence why I always hide it on my systems.
Yeah didn’t know that the function you are describing is the exact way i use it
