• @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    Whataboutism”, or if you are unfamiliar with the term:

    “The act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse”

    People that use this mechanism are “poorly educated” and unable to hold a conversation and they should just be mocked by whatabouting even harder, so they can maybe understand that they’re dumb and that’s not how you should debate.

    Example of the last argument I had recently with my dumb c*nt father:

    • Me: You shouldn’t idolize that politician, he evaded literally billions in taxes and that befalls on citizens like you
    • Dumb c*nt father: Yeah? And what about that other politician?
    • Me: What about the disappearing middle class?!
    • D.C.F.: What…?
    • Me: WHAT ABOUT THE BEES!?!
    • @[email protected]
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      02 years ago

      Nah, addiction plagues the well and the poorly educated. I was acquainted with a couple of Nobel prize winners who smoked like chimneys.

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    Not trusting in science.

    Edit: Since there are many comments, I would like to clarify my statement. I meant that you should rather trust scientists, that the earth is round / that there is a human-made climate change, etc. and not listen to some random internet guy, that claims these things are false although he has made no scientific tests or he has no scientific background. I know that there are paradigm shifts in science and sometimes old ideas are proven to be wrong. But those shifts happen through other scientific experiments/thoughts. As long as > 99 % of all scientists think that something is true, you should rather trust them then any conspiracy theorist…

    • @[email protected]
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      02 years ago

      Trust what? Many scientists will quite justifiably have completely opposing views (do vaccines cause autism for example).

      • adderaline
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        12 years ago

        i mean i get the impulse, but if we were to blindly trust any sort of knowledge system, science is the one to trust, right? like, any downsides of trusting scientific consensus are necessarily larger when trusting information sources that aren’t scientific, and if you follow through with trusting science blindly, you might ignorantly begin to believe that empirical testing and intellectual honesty is necessary for determining the truth of your beliefs!

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    People who think their dialect or language style is grammatically correct and others are wrong, because they don’t personally known the grammar rules of any other dialect or language. They don’t understand that language is alive and evolving and that the purpose of language is communication.

  • @[email protected]
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    02 years ago

    When someone says “I seen”.

    No, you saw. Or you have seen.

    It’s like nails on a chalkboard to me.

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      Ya that’s not a sign uneducated imo. Infact, formal education has very little to do with how “educated” one is ime.

      I didn’t go to college. And most of my “peers” didn’t either. But I wouldn’t consider myself uneducated in the least.

      Many of my peers use this term, and while “uneducated”, many are far from dumb.

      I’d consider it more of a dialect atp.

      But I guess your right in that there is a higher chance they are kind of uneducated, but i think how you portray it comes off as pearl clutching, and sort of mean.

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      22 years ago

      what gets me is when people interpret the use of different english dialects as a negative reflection on their character. demanding strict adherance to prescriptivist standards of grammar seem to me to be a sign of poor education.

  • @[email protected]
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    02 years ago

    Using “I” as the object instead of the subject, like saying “The waiter brought drinks to my friend and I.”

    • dudeami0
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      22 years ago

      Being proudly ignorant of everything is bad. I will respect people who know they don’t know things though, you can’t know everything about everything. It’s why people generally specialize in a field in an industry.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Sometimes my friends laugh at me for how little I know about pop culture. I laugh back though. I wouldn’t say I’m proud of it but it’s just funny.

    • ram
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      22 years ago

      On the flipside, the belief that someone with a formal education is somehow beneath you or brainwashed for it.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    Not being able to entertain ideas. “What would the world be like with 100% renewable energy?” “Would basic healthcare for every person help our country?”

    I tried to explain the 4 day work week to someone that gets paid by the hour. You make the same money but work 4 days a week instead of 5. Insisted he got paid less. Had to explain like a Bingo card with a Free Space, 1 day he is paid even if he stays home.

    • CleoTheWizard
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      12 years ago

      I think it’s good to note that while some of this is a failure to develop critical thinking, failure to entertain hypotheticals is OFTEN a trait for people with differing cognition. So don’t assume they’re poorly educated just from this, take it as a sign that the person thinks differently.

      I’ve met and am friends with people who struggle with hypotheticals and education isn’t the problem, just how their brain works.

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        12 years ago

        Also, some hypotheticals don’t consider the inherent problem of a situation or ignores context, and therefor aren’t worth entertaining. Not all, just some. When that happens it’s best to explain why the hypothetical doesn’t work, which I suppose is entertaining it.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      I like the idea of the 4 day workweek and would absolutely advocate for it, but I’m not sure how I personally would be affected by it. I do rotating 12 hour shift work to operate a power plant. I flip between 36 and 48 scheduled hours, 5 to 5 flipping between days and nights with a few days off between to flip my sleep schedule.

      Would my OT start after 32 hours instead of 40? Would my company hire more people to schedule me between 24 and 36 hour weeks as a result? Because I’m not sure they’d be down with paying 4 hours OT on the cheapest weeks of my labor, and 16 hours OT every other week. So they probably have me work less, but does this result in a one time 25% raise and then fall off over time as no further raises come?

      Idk, I would be fine either way because of how I budget, but I think these are valid questions that most hourly workers should be concerned about. I don’t think it’s such a simple concept, and companies will almost certainly find loopholes to exploit to fuck us like they did for the ACA.

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      32 years ago

      I don’t know if that’s necessarily wrong of them. There isn’t any precedent for hourly workers to be paid when they’re not working. The “four day workweek” as described simply means that any time over 32 hours a week is overtime. Hourly workers in general don’t really have a “workweek” anyway because they will often have multiple jobs or will work whatever shift they can pick up that works with their schedule.

      They understood how the 4-day workweek works based on how the 5-day workweek works. I think maybe you need to listen more to them and try to understand your own proposition better.

      When companies voluntarily implement 4-day workweeks, they are literally either cutting 8 hours or doing 10-hour shifts. They do not pay for hours not worked.

    • BarqsHasBite
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      12 years ago

      Because he’s an hourly worker he’s in the hourly mindset. You’d have to say your hourly rate would go up but only if you worked 32 hr/wk.

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    People who litter. Throw their rubbish out the window of the car. Or who throw rubbish in public, like into drains or sidewalks.

    It’s in the mentality, and I say the lack of education is the reason for it.

    It’s sad to see the people of my country do this, and to see it with your own eyes.

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    Parents feeding their baby cola in bottles and smoking while pregnant are two things that usually cause me to make assumptions

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      Smoking in general. An expensive habit of self-harm for short term “feels good.”

      • @[email protected]
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        02 years ago

        And to get rid of the craving for a bit. I say this while smoking a fag (glad I can say this without risk of admins banning me). I should probably quit l.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 years ago

          If you knew saying that word could cause pain in others, why would you say it and further celebrate it? OP may not have meant their question this way, but your comment is how I identify people with poor emotional intelligence.

          • @[email protected]
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            02 years ago

            Because it’s not a slur, it’s literally the word for a cigarette and that’s it. I’m not celebrating anything I’m just glad I don’t have to go back and edit my comments to avoid a completely unwarranted ban.

            • @[email protected]
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              02 years ago

              In the English speaking world, it is a slur regardless of whether or not you use it as slang for a cigarette. Do you really believe that using a word is more important than making sure others don’t feel marginalized? Emotional intelligence is partly about empathy and using that to recognize harmful behavior. A sign of maturity and positive personal growth is realizing that your behavior causes others to feel unwelcome and correcting that behavior. It’s fortuitous that, in a thread about signs of poor education, we are having this discussion. Criticisms are learning experiences, not made with malice; malice is purposefully saying something harmful and celebrating it. Will your life truly be ruined by substituting that word so you don’t accidentally hurt someone?

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                In England it is literally the word for a cigarette. I don’t know what to tell you, most people call it that here. It has no relation to the slur and has different origins. Next you’re going to tell me I can’t have faggots and mash for dinner tonight because you might cry.

                Also how inconsiderate of the bbc for using the word faggot on one of their own YouTube channels https://youtu.be/pVHbWHGVYaU

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      12 years ago

      This also screams “I am a selfish and self-centered person”.