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Im new here on Lemmy. So far it seems a little confusing coming from Reddit. But I really hope it lasts. From what I can tell there is a good community here.
When Reddit forces “new Reddit” is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.
But they promised us that old reddit isn’t going anywhere. Surely, we can trust that something won’t happen if they say it won’t happen, right?
You can trust that it won’t happen in the next fifteen minutes, probably. I wouldn’t believe much further out than that.
I think the 3PA devs got about four months, right?
Reddit in January: we will not charge for the API. Not in the next few years, at least.
Reddit in April: charges are coming, but they’ll be totally reasonable and based in reality
Reddit in May: if you want to use the API, you should pay us 29x what we make from customers that don’t use it
Seeing a post like this with over 100 comments makes me think that it’s going to last, but scrolling down and seeing 25+ posts in a row with zero comments concerns me. It could be a federation/Jerboa/other issue though, I’m still not 100% on everything works and connects, plus I imagine the sudden rapid growth is hurting it for now but that should settle eventually
I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.
AFAIK, Mastodon actually did gain a sizeable amount of users that actually stayed, even though the number of users has dropped since the peak.
I personally think something like Lemmy works better than Mastodon, since content is more important here than the users, which I think makes it more easy to have a self-sustaining community.
I’ll be here. I like that it takes a little more effort, it’s a little cumbersome or gatekeepy, but it also seems to keep the vibe more like the early internet and less like whatever it has currently turned into.
It reminds me of crypto spaces but without the incentive and monetization of action that seems to lead to a scammy and disingenuous feel to the content.
Two things to bear in mind…
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Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after
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there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added
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Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it’s only going to attract more people
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It depends on the growth curve. Right now it’s exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it’ll probably start to flatten. At that point, it’s either big enough to stick or it’s not.
I sure as hell hope so. After everything that’s happened over at Reddit I don’t feel like going back. I’m not one to come back to an abusive relationship ya know? So like yeah I hope Lemmy lasts it seems to hold up well against the Sands of time at the very least, if it lasts as long as Reddit and things go south instead of having to jump ship, you can just migrate servers. Plus, at least at this point in time, there have been no red flags, all we need is for the userbase to participate.
Edit: Typo
If that happens I’m going to see it as an opportunity to go no-social media for a year. I’ve done this with other things, for example not buying clothes for a year, and my habits have changed permanently with each exercise. I’m convinced that if you can do it for a year, it starts to become part of the fabric of who you are, and if that’s preferable you’re unlikely to backslide.
I don’t think Lemmy would die even if Spez gets fired and they write a public apology for the users inconvenience and step back with the API changes…
I for sure am here to stay!
Honestly even if they fired Huffman, reversed all his bad decisions, and even went open source again it would still never be the same. They would never be able to fix the damage that they’ve done.
That’s what happens when you stab your users in the back like this.
Yeah, it’s not as though the third party app devs would suddenly all be like “oh thank god we can keep working with this company”. The bridges are burned.
Also the person developing Reddit’s mod Toolbox is quitting [source]. That’ll be a huge blow to the ability for Reddit mods to moderate subreddits. Yep they really couldn’t fix this even if they wanted to (they don’t, they think we’re too stupid and that we’ll still keep using Reddit even after every sub is full of spam and “upvote if you agree” posts).
Maybe, but I think that the branding of the “fediverse” + difficulty of use will make it unlikely to surpass reddit or any other alternatives. It will almost certainly still be around for years to come, but I doubt it’ll be much more than niche, despite me hoping for the contrary.
I will say I hate the difficult to use part. it’s no harder than email it’s the same @ symbol and everything. i don’t see people having an issue signing up for yahoo or Gmail. I agree it’s a branding issue but the question is who is branding it that way. seems more like fud to me. is it aa feature rich? no that is valid and will improve in time. once jerboa fixed /c urls I don’t even search for them I just find them organically now.
I don’t think it’ll die… but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.
The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services… I doubt it, but we wouldn’t be here if we only cared about numbers.
Well, as long as I am around it is not going to die as a I am not leaving Fediverse. And I am specific about it being the fediverse as even if Kbin and/or Lemmy die, there will be others that will take over, I am 100% sure. Whether it will actually surpass Reddit, I have no clue. But I am not sure whether I even care.
And not because I hate Reddit or anything like that. I am just really into what fediverse stands for and even a week ago with half of the users it scratched my itch as Reddit had done previously.
Like honestly, I don’t even feel that strongly about Reddit and spez but Lemmy provide all I need so far, from meta stuff, through inteligent conversations to memes.
I remain sceptical about the fediverse for a number of reasons. Some may turn out to not be a big deal, I don’t know yet.
I worry about discoverability and search engine indexing, the main usefulness of Reddit for me was the ability to find answers to questions already asked by others.
I worry about the potential for federated servers to turn into small insulated islands, due drama between admins.
I worry that I’ll need to keep track of a multitude of accounts and websites on a fractured internet, what with lemmy and kbin and whatever other services show up.
Centralization has its issues, but it also comes with a great many benefits, and I’ll wait and see if the fediverse can make up the difference.
While I plan on using this platform for the forseeable future - I don’t have too high hopes.
I think it will probably go the way Mastodon is going. A few weeks of being “hot”, then dropping off until it’s pretty much business as usual, as it was before being the hot new thing. Don’t get me wrong, I want Lemmy to succeed and replace reddit, but I wouldn’t bet money on it.
It’s been going for 4 years now. I think the worst case scenario is it falls back to the numbers it had before this reddit incident.
