Ear buds no way.
Phone, would work fine though might have a bad battery at the end. But should still work ok.
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Mobile phone might, but battery will go bad in 3-4 years and if it’s OLED screen it will show ghosting for sure after same period of time. Earbuds no chance. They will die much sooner, at least battery will.
Yea, my 2nd gen Airpods are cooked after 4½ years of use. I get maybe 45min to an hour of battery and they’re tinny and quiet and the microphones speed working. A far cry from their performance when they were new but for listening to podcasts on the go they’re still good enough…
I’d consider 4.5 years quite good to be honest. I still dislike the idea of built-in expiration date, but it’s still a good time. Average is probably lower and closer to 2 years. LiIon batteries usually survive around 600-1000 charge cycles, more if you don’t use top 20% of the voltage range but no one is doing that these days. Maximum capacity starts dropping really fast, after some 2-3 months of use, as it’s frequently noticed with laptop batteries. So I’d say 4.5 years is about at the tail end of that expected maximum life. Wish they made batteries replaceable. But soon they will be thanks to EU.
I mean, let’s be honest, earbuds have always kind of been consumables. Before wireless, when the cable eventually broke, you had to get new ones. Now, it’s when the battery dies. The difference is, AirPods 2 are 150€ and EarPods, which are basically the same thing, just wired, are 20€…
The good news is any phone repair shop will be able to replace your battery for a reasonable price. Same with the screen but obviously that is a lot more expensive. My pixel 3 and pixel 1 hasn’t shown any ghosting in the screen yet but I don’t think I use apps with persistent UI often. Word of advice is use gesture navigation instead of the 3 buttons because the 3 buttons will burn in.
My SO watches a lot of YouTube so his 3a had burn in where the video usually is (like the top 1/3 of the device).
Still there’s notification bar and its icons. But yeah, in general it might not get a big issue or it might.
OLED screen it will show ghosting for sure after same period of time
Is the ghosting somehow related with the AOD?
That is a feature that I always have off in mine, and I have it since 2020 using it daily and no issues about this so far.
Always online displays are more prone to this. Manufacturers mitigate this by moving numbers around, like screen saver. Simply put OLED screens emit light, instead of filtering it like LCD. Am not quite sure why they degrade over time, but they do… especially blue diodes. But how fast this forms really depends on usage patterns. Whether you like bright screen or not, whether you have AOD, whether there’s elements always visible on screen (back button, clock, etc). With my own devices at 3 years of use there wasn’t any signs but they start showing after that. My mom who uses the same device, after changing the screen, has this happen to her not even a year in.
The way the volume rocker & power button popped off so easily in jerryrigs durability test, I would have doubts about its longevity…🤷🏻♂️
Depends how much you care about shit working.
My tablet works and works well, but practically every site and game related app will crash. I can use discord, reddit/lemmy but thats about all my tablet can handle. It seems to handle YouTube fine, but i don’t use it on mobile because of the 50million ads.
My tablet isn’t 10 years old, yet. Again it still works its just…most things don’t work with it.
You could use newpipe instead of YouTube. I find it is much lighter weight
Maybe, but as a rule I don’t care for watching videos on my tablet, anyway. I prefer my computer.
My phone is newer and can handle everything that my tablet can’t, but with it being a 2020 model, its probably only a matter of time where I stsrtseeing the crashing issue (despite technically being compatible with the app). The crashing issue has happened with every one of my devices over the years eventually. It’s one of the ways they keep us buying new devices.
Again, my tablet works and it works well. But outside of discord and lemmy/reddit, it’s become largely useless. Yet, because the mobile tech moves so quickly, they would have me see it send it to a landfill already.
It could be degraded storage, older tablets and some low end tablets have emmc storage which degrades quicker iirc. Also sometimes a good factory reset can do wonders if your device is borked. But it sounds like you’ve moved on anyways
There is a lot of hidden data, something like a good 70% of my drive is taken up by “pther” and doesn’t tell me what “other” means or to get rid.a factory reset could help.
I do use this tablet still. Mostly for discord, reddit/lemmy before I go to sleep and sometimes when I wake up. The tablet works for those purposes.
I use a 2013 Nexus 7 everyday. Albeit with Ubuntu Touch
Since those earbuds are not repair friendly (I love you, buds+) the battery will be the first to go in about 1-2 years depending on use and with minimal care (cleaning and whatnot). The phone software wise very likely maybe even more so depending on third party support. Hardware wise depending on use and care the battery, the screen and maybe the usb c port will need replacement with time. Get a good case, save up like 200-300$ as an emergency fund and about 150$ for a future battery and you should be golden and have fun with the time you have with the earbuds.
Edit: I say the screen since thats the most fragile part of the phone and people tend to drop stuff hence the 200-300$ emergency fund. The usb c port probably might not need replacing (my og pixel xl’s still works) but I’m not sure how op will abuse it, again emergence fund. The battery fund is basically a guarantee though since lithium batteries dont last
With how awful my P6 is ageing I wouldn’t count on it…
Me not trusting pixel phones toast more than 2-4 years is the reason I still won’t buy another one. If I see people actually still use the p8 by 2030 I might buy one again.
I’ve had mine for 4 years at a time. And I change for convenience, not because they break down.
Edit: Went through the order history. I wasn’t entirely correct. More like 3 years at a time. But, I didn’t have to upgrade either.
- 2012 Nexus 4
- 2015 Nexus 6P
- 2018 Pixel XL
- 2021 Pixel 4a
- 2023 Pixel 7
My phone history is
-samsung gamaxy S3 mini
-Nexus 6 (2014/15?-2017)
-oneplus 5t (2017-2021)
-Pixel 6 (2021-now)
So I don’t change out frequently either but I do think this will be my shortest time if using a phone this far.
What’s wrong with your P6? My P6 Pro is almost 2 years old and it’s still working great.
Network connectivity is barely functional, I did look into having it replaced but I was told I couldn’t since it’s appearently not a manufacturing issue.
The battery lasts maybe 2 hours of screen on time, when I commute to work I have to charge before I get on the train home. It also overheats like crazy. It gets really uncomfortable in my hands…
The camera takes awfully oversharpened images, overuses HDR and everything comes out looking like digital noise.
The fingerprint scanner is awful. It is always faster to use a pattern to unlock my device. Often it doesn’t work at all and I’ve just disabled it now cause it failing to work kept locking me out of important apps.
Bluetooth connectivity keeps failing, and other basic functions like the led flashlight go unresponsive very frequently
I also use a Pixel 6 (for at least a year, probably longer).
For me, the battery, camera, fingerprint and bluetooth work great.
The only issue I also experience is network connectivity sometimes stopping for a few seconds for no apparent reason. (I also dislike that if I enable mobile data, the phone basically completely stops scanning for wifi, and only connects to wifi if I manually connect using the wifi settings.)
(eta: I use GrapheneOS)
Does graphemeOS give complications with banking apps?
Last time I used a custom ROM I was locked out of online banking, which is quite the deal breaker for me…
If it isn’t I might just give that a try
My banking app works flawlessly, even without Google Play services installed.
Here’s a list of banking apps’ compatibility with GrapheneOS. (I don’t know how accurate this list is as a whole, but it’s accurate for my banking app).
Ohhh thats such a useful resource! I’ll try it on my OP5t and if it works I might switch over and get rid of Google services finally
Edit: Oh graphene is pixel devices only? Dang… Might be tok risky for me then
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did not have problems with network connectivity
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battery lasts decent amount and doesnt overheat for me, you may have some kind of heavy background program running on your system
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That is kind of a thing with google camera, other camera apps seem to do fine
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Fingerprint scanner for me is great
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I do not use bluetooth much, so i cannot really comment on this, but i haven’t had any issues with flashlight
I am jealous of your experience :') I would love to love this phone
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Even if it did survive, you’ll likely be bored of it by then lol
7 years of support, plus I can always play around with GrapheneOS and CalyxOS if I fancy tinkering with it… Just need Graphene to be released for the 8 now.
grapheneos for pixel 8 justttt came out
But it hasn’t… Why lie?
Bored? It’s just a phone, they all look the same.
I have the same colour phone and earphones 👍
essentially zero. google churn and burn hardware by making it very badly.
If it exceeds your expectation right now, then it should last 8 years with a battery replacement when the battery health goes bad. Because in my experience pixels never get worse than they were on day 1 over the years (except for the battery health).
If it’s below your expectation, you are going to want to sell it in 1 or 2 years looking for that thing you are lacking at the moment.
In 2-3 years the phone scene might radically change with the EU law. You might not even want to use this till 2030.
Maybe Google knows what’s coming and they want everyone to buy and keep a lot of the last ‘optional privacy’ phone before EU laws shut down future phones.
EU bullshit only effects the EU, the rest of the planet doesnt have to give a shit. Everybody that wants privacy, has as much as we can get, now. The EU laws, aside from Google ignoring them at will wont change much. It cute that you beleive otherwise, especially given the EUs last attempt to totally undermine your privscy with their hatred of encryption and love of backdoors made just for them, but sure, THEY will be the ones to protect you…LOL. The EU gov’t is literally Google, all about security and privacy, it just doesnt apply to them.
I partially agree with you.
There’s been some regulations by the EU that I strongly disagree with. (weakening encryption)
There’s also some regulations I strongly agree with (forcing apple (and others) to adopt usb c, GDPR, opt in to marketing and tracking, right to be forgotten)
I can see why you might think that EU regulations only apply to the EU, but where changes are significant enough for a manufacturer, they might not create multiple hardware and software setups in different markets (see usbc in iphones). There’s also knock on effects in other markets (califorinia, Brazil, india, all have their own version of GDPR)
I feel like I’ve got you wound up, that wasn’t my intent! I was trying to be tongue in cheek. I do believe in regulation though, so maybe that’s where we disagree. Sorry ol’ chap!
Agreed, although the EU (may) have sped up USB C adoption for the phones, clearly Apple was doing that either way, the writing was on the wall with their other things going that way in prior years along with them always trying to make all their shit use the same stuff.
I’m all for the privacy aspect, when its not undone for themselves, and have all those same benefits as my states privscy laws do all the same stuff, a handful of US states do as well with more being passed every year. Everybody outside the US for some reason only thinks CA has those laws, not the case, but CA is very vocal about it.
Not riled up at all, bit it just gets tiring that while EU people on one end seem to be aware of all the privacy violations happening, then pretend that the GDPR is some holy doctrine that saves them from it all, anybody with an IQ above room temperature knows that’s now how it works. Laws give a process for punishment after the fact, they rarely stop anything from happening. No shortage of companies figure out fines from stuff like that as a cost of doing business. We need them, but once you’re now “safe” because of them, thats whem you’ve left reality. If laws worked that way we wouldn’t need police or prisons, because there’d be no crime.
Just an FYI, I’m not an “EU person”
I’m a senior leader in a tech organisation. My teams and I frequently need to implement solutions that are compliant with market specific regulations (which have global reach), so I am some what familiar with them.
The EU is broadly doing a good job in my opinion, the US has room for improvement!
🙄 I’m sure having a removable battery is going to make me want to spend $700 on a wasteful new phone and definitely not spend $90 to have the current one replaced.
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Come back when you’ve used a retirement calculator.
I’m just waiting for the 8A for Graphene support
I would have likely got the 8A if it came out with the 8 and the pro. I didn’t want to wait.
I see. It’s a great phone though, have fun!
My only fears is that made by Google. They can decide not to support it 3 years later. But you’ll have roms for maybe even more then 10 years.
For me is all about security updates, I’ll be using GrapheneOS once it’s available.
I don’t think you’ll have a problem. Google’s phones are usually among the most supported by custom ROM developers. Even if GrapheneOS ceases to exist, you’ll likely find a replacement that supports the Pixel 8.
pixel phones do already have long support times tho
If I recall correctly, it used to be around 2-3 years, far less than the promised 10 years.
I still using pixel 3 from 2018 running the lastest update of android with custom ROM
Actually using that right now as my main Pixel 6 is broken after it slipped from my hand and i accidentally threw it at a wall
I’m in the same boat. Pixel 2 XL with a custom ROM. Battery life isn’t great but it works. The biggest pain is multitasking as apps have to reload when switching sometimes.
That was why I got rid of the pixel 2. The newer ones are soooo much better without the reloading issue. I got a pixel 5 for $150 on back market. Totally worth it and an amazing deal really.
Hmm, that’s not a bad idea. I was looking at the recent Pixel 8 Pro, but waiting for more long-term reviews. Google Fi is giving $400 off so it’s not a terrible deal.
