So I jumped ship from Windows to Kubuntu last night, and It’s mostly been pretty good. However my general performance of the computer has been abysmal. Like it takes upwards of 5 seconds to open anything. All of my hardware seems to be running at max speeds, so I have no idea why it would be so sluggish? It’s as if I’m running on 2gb of ram and a cpu at like 1.5ghz. My specs are:
i7-8700k at 4.7ghz max Amd Rx 6750xt 16gb ram at 3200mhz Linux is on an m.2
Any ideas? This is practically unusable for any normal operations, let alone any gaming.
Update: So it seems like my CPU is being throttled to it’s min of 800mhz because the temp is just below 100c. Not sure why it’s so high because I never got that high even in intensive gaming on Windows
Lubuntu or xubuntu are quicker (especially on lesser machines), but it does sound like you’ve got cooling issues.
I always find Kde heavy-handed with resources to deliver the GUI.
KDE wouldn’t be slow on the kind of hardware he’s using. I’ve used it on far lower end hardware with no noticeable slowdowns.
Yes, KDE requires hardware accelerated graphics and more memory to run smoothly, but anything built in the last 10y should have no issues meeting those requirements.
The thing I experienced on my laptop was: I used on Linux Max Performance while on windows I let it be the default (balanced or smth I think). The result: my Laptop hit way too often 100°C when playing games that my CPU throttled to 800mhz. It was a quick fix by just using balanced instead so it can decide for itself when to cool a tiny bit to not throttle, like windows.
There are multiple tools to set the Intel Power Management Profile to “Balanced” instead of “Performance”
Go to terminal and type in top … Maybe something like fs-miner is chewing CPU cycles? File indexing can sometimes do this.
Based on your update, are the AMD drivers loaded and working? Maybe it’s using CPU for rendering instead of GPU.
I don’t think it would be throttled to 800Mhz if this was the case, though. It definitely sounds like their cpu cooler isn’t working right. Maybe due to a kernel bug somehow, or maybe it just coincidentally died right when they moved to Linux.
yeah cpu fan/cooler does sound more likely.
Is there a way I can tell? I haven’t downloaded anything manually as my monitors seem to work out of the box unlike windows
Install “nvtop” to see all GPUs Performance graph. I do not remember if Intel was supported for Performance graph, but at least you can see a change for your AMD GPU.
There are AMD Top tools to see all data from AMD too.
I haven’t used Linux on desktop in ages but back in the.day we would do something like run gears to see if the animation was smooth and check the frame rate. Maybe use lsmod to check for the GPU’s kernel module.
This is purely based on my experience but somehow I think that Pop OS works better on laptops. System76 is a laptop manufacturer so it makes sense they’d optimize for that, I suppose. You may want to give that a try
*also a laptop manufacture
I would start by checking for any sort of errors in your system logs, such as
/var/log/syslogor usingdmesg -w. In my experience, Linux is almost universally faster than Windows.When I switched from Windows to Linux I found cockpit-project.org to be a true blessing when troubleshooting. Something about having logs and services in a Web GUI that can be really helpful.
f.e.: https://cockpit-project.org/images/screenshot/journal.webp
Except for GNOME cause the DE is essentially a browser engine and CSS themes :)
no, you are wrong about it being slower, and also about it being a browser
Yeah sure, keep working in your delusions.
GNOME Shell is tightly integrated with Mutter, a compositing window manager and Wayland compositor. It is based upon Clutter to provide visual effects and hardware acceleration.[20] According to GNOME Shell maintainer[21] Owen Taylor, it is set up as a Mutter plugin largely written in JavaScript[22] and uses GUI widgets provided by GTK+ version 3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell
And yes, GNOME is slower than Windows, KDE and Xfce. Always has been, always will be. It might be polished but it is slow.
where is written that gnome is a browser?, they only use javascript, like they could have used anything else, still don’t make it a browser, or like one
and yes it’s lighter than windows, proved by ubuntu being recomended for lightweight OS(even when they use extensions and Snap), and where i said that it’s lighter than KDE and Xfce for you to bring it up lol
By definition something that executes JS and parses CSS is a browser.
and yes it’s lighter than windows, proved by ubuntu being recomended for lightweight OS
Absolutely not. It gets recommended as a lightweight OS because 1) there are delusional people and 2) if you remove and stop everything on Windows 10 that you don’t it will be faster, way faster than anything running GNOME.
The problem isn’t the OS per si, the problem is the UI. GNOME is SLOW as hell and even if the OS behind it is way more efficient than Windows it will lose against a debloated Windows 10 setup because Window’s UI is fully native and way faster.
Which distribution of Windows would you recommend for this debloated experience?
By definition something that executes JS and parses CSS is a browser.
This is wrong. A browser parse a html document and construct a DOM, executing JavaScript and CSS are optional. GTK apps don’t have DOM, GTK has ability to parse UI styles from css instead of from XML so styling can be separated from UI definitions. Modern UI toolkits like QT (used extensively by KDE) also have CSS supports.
I agree GNOME is resource heavy however that has nothing to do with Javascript being involved. The James Web Telescope uses Javascript for some of its core functionality (specifically managing its science modules), does that make it a web browser? I personally don’t like GNOME either, but most of it is written in C, it has its own GUI library which is written in C. The Javascript code likely just is used to simplify calling the underlying C functions and CSS is used for customizing the actual UI elements.
You know, it’s not that I don’t like it, but if it was faster things would be better. Even on a 10th-gen i7 with all the RAM launching an App on GNOME is always slower than KDE or Xfce. You feel a slight delay, maybe half a second or so.
To be honest their entire ecosystem is very used friendly and you’re kinda forced into GNOME as most GNOME apps will pull a ton of GNOME components with themselves even if you’re on KDE or others.
I guess excel is also “just a browser” since it can run JS too?
Excel is everything, runs on a Browser, can run a Browser and everything in between :D
isn’t that basically what the windows ui is, too?
Absolutely not.
Windows 11’s shell is mostly WebView2.
And you say that because…?
…it’s true?
No it isn’t.
Yeah, there’s probably something wrong. This is good advice. Maybe some tool can also do a performance benchmark to find the culprit. I’ve seen a lot of Linux computers. And except for some strange hardware, it’s supposed to be (at least) as fast as anything else.
Open your activity monitor (or hit Ctrl+Esc) and sort by CPU usage. What’s your computer doing?
Also, have you installed all necessary drivers? I’ve never had your problem, so there’s a chance you don’t have the right drivers.
Could you follow the instructions on https://linux-hardware.org/?view=howto , upload a hardware probe and share the link here?
@Canadian_Cabinet Did you put Linux on a slow hard drive? KUbuntu can be slow on poor speed hdds just like any other operating system.
One more thing to add. Snaps? I heard it takes pretty long to open.
Snaps definitely are slower to open. One they get going, they are fine.
But a little slow to load…
Snaps have been opening as fast as anything else for months
But only the first time you open it, right?
Idk i didnt try it
From what I have read it’s only the initial phase when running the Snap for the first time. The package is setting up the environment and does some things only once. And the first iteration of the Snap concept was very slow, which is improved a lot. Didn’t use Ubuntu in years, so cannot test it myself at the moment.
Sometimes one might have issues with delayed opening of GTK apps, but I’m pretty sure there can be multiple causes. All misconfiguration, so it would be weird since you’re on Kubuntu.
While I doubt this will work, uninstall something like xdg-portal-gnome if you have it. It significantly increased app startup times on my machine
Gnome portal on a Kde UI?
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Which is why I said it was unlikely. Personally I tried out multiple DEs before settling on one so I had it installed
This sounds like a hardware problem. Keep in mind that thermal paste doesn’t last forever. I’d rebuild it.
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When you know it’s overheating, you could as well try and remove dust, with some compressed air. It can’t hurt.
Edit: Actually there’s plenty other that thinks this could be a combo of software and hardware, so my point is still valid.
Check your hardware if you start getting overheating problems.
Sure, but it’s not like the dust suddenly appeared when switching to linux, this is a software/driver issue.
Sorry I should have started my comment with a disclaimer that I absolutely know it’s a software problem but. It’s always prudent to ensure against crud buildup inside the computer.
