Reddit doesn’t actually own any of the content, right? Neither do any of the contributors? Seems like a good way to fuck Reddit.
If I’m doing a drive-by of Reddit, I might nab a few stories, but for the most part I don’t even load it anymore.
Because we’re not 9gag. Lemmy is supposed to be better not derivative.
It’s a link aggregator, there’s nothing wrong with that.
I don’t count posting a link you saw on Reddit as “taking top content from reddit and posting it here” so much as taking top memes and text posts. I do think bots should not be the ones doing it though, users should post links they find interesting. If that link came from Reddit it’s functionally no differerent than if it came from the Yahoo news page or the outlet itself.
Theres plenty of bots doing that
fun fact, if you block the bots when you see them they go away :)
Fun fact, if you change the setting in your account to not see bot posts then they go away :)
wait… you can do that?
Can I learn this power?! how does one learn this power?You’ll miss out on useful bots, like the one that rewrites Lemmy links so they work right.
Like the others say, there’s a downside as it blocks all content from accounts marked as bots by their creator. But on the website of your instance, clixk your name at the top right (or on mobile, hamburger button then click your name), then click Settings. The option is in there, and in my experience generally will sync through to any app you use. Your app may have a way to set this as well.
Only for accounts actually labeled as a bot. Thats basically just a flag that can be turned on and off, someone who is going to make a bot for malicious purposes such as spamming content probably won’t flag it properly.
It would be bad form to make an account labeled as a bot and just post from it normally, right?
well, yes, i dont think there’s anything stopping you from doing that in any way. But the bot account flag is basically just honor system is my point. I wouldn’t expect it to be a rock-solid way to deal with bots. Only the good/non-malicious actors are going to properly label themselves.
What’s Reddit? -
How dare you suggest reposting things from other websites! I have never been so shocked and scandalized in my life!
I wanted to the first few days I was here, but the subs I would have done it for already had nothing being posted because all the content finders/makers left and started posting here in the reciprocating communities. The only thing left on Reddit are the dregs I wouldn’t even stop and get a better look at the thumbnail of while I scrolled.
I don’t want to spam Lemmy with trash.
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Adding on to this: I’d rather see the Fediverse not become just Reddit 2.0. I personally very much like the vibes and communities we already got going on already.
I really, really don’t want the current Reddit where admin allows blatant adverts in posts, racism and homophobia and bans people who encourage protests.
I think the key will be the adoption of all the sub-reddits coming here and producing the same quality content they do there.
I agree. I think that’s going to be the only way this shit works. I want it to work, but there needs to be more of a plan and effort than shitty memes from 2010. Everyone keeps saying “this isn’t reddit this isn’t reddit”, we’ll then why is the best content here on subreddit clone communities with the same banners and same rules? This needs to be more like Reddit, because that is only reason all of us are here.
There are some game community I often visit still on Reddit.
Example: r/fallen London r/sunlesssea
I doubt that mod will move to Lemmy anytime. It is the community they build for business. Moving to Lemmy is risky move.
I just went and saw the top all time feed of r/all and… I’m good. Rather not pollute this place like that.
Because Fuck Reddit and don’t be a thief.
Well, plugging my own ragepost a couple of days ago: https://lemmy.world/post/805180, that and the linked discussion from here on NSQ should give you a good idea of the arguments against it.
I agree in general, though I like lemmit.online. That keeps everything separate - it’s almost archiving, really.
Back in the days of shopping malls, you could travel and go to a mall in any city, and it would be virtually the same as a mall in any other city: same stores, same (or similar) restaurants in the food court, same teenagers trying desperately to impress each other… all shoved into a slightly different layout. It was kinda bleak. One reason we don’t just copy our content from somewhere else is that we don’t want to re-create this nightmare hellscape on the internet, where every new social network is a slightly different skin on the same content.
Lemmy is not Reddit. Please let Lemmy continue to not be Reddit. If you want to fuck Reddit, do it by not going to Reddit. Reddit doesn’t own the content, but the contributors do. (Read section 5 of the Reddit terms of use; when you post on Reddit, you retain ownership of your content and grant Reddit license to it.) When you repost their content without permission, you’re not fucking Reddit; you’re fucking them.
Help me understand how reposting fucks the content creators? They are simply having their labor exploited by Reddit. They aren’t being compensated for their work, and a billion dollar company is reaping all the financial benefits.
I feel like with all the protests the real core issue, or what people should be angry about was not really hammered home. Reddit is a business and Lemmy is not, right? Reddit’s business model relies on labor exploitation of not just the content creators, but the moderators. Reddit expects these people to work for them, but provides no pay and on top of that shows a general disregard, contempt and disgusting for those people who allow them to exist and make their execs rich. That is what I find most disgusting, and feel like this point was just glossed over by everyone that was pissed off by the whole api thing.
So what you’re saying is, Reddit is fucking creators by not compensating them, but when you take that work and repost it without compensation, it’s ok?
Besides, the great thing about Lemmy is that it’s not Reddit. It has a whole different vibe. I think it’s worth maintaining that.
No that’s not what I’m trying to say. I’m saying that content creators on Reddit are already being fucked. The only perceivable benefit they get from Reddit is exposure. So I would argue that reposting their content on other platforms benefits them. It can also be done in a respectful and ethical way—providing attributions for example.
Because they own the content and control over how it is distributed. They chose to grant it to reddit, and you have decided that also grants you a license, although it actually doesn’t. You are taking it anyway which violates their rights to control their content and who may distribute it.
I agree with you that the users are being exploited by Reddit, but that doesn’t mean that we can come in and further exploit them in the interest of trying to avenge them. That should be (and legally is) their choice to do or not to do.
And I also agree with you that the exploitation is the issue. The API stuff just shined a light on it (or should have anyway, but I also agree that it became just a footnote in the story).
I don’t see how it would ‘fuck Reddit’. Do you mean it would draw more people to using Lemmy/Kbin? Or have I misunderstood? Because that’s definitely not going to happen.
And if you want to see that stuff just go back to using Reddit.
Honestly… even before the meltdown, content was mostly crap.
For kbin/lemmy to be useful; it needs to be its own thing. Emulating crap is just crappier crap.
