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Cute that you think she’s go to anything resembling a normal prison and not a white collar cell where the worst she deals with it eating freeze dried food sometimes
Using the correct pronouns is an issue of respecting others, and seeing Rowling doubling down on her smug and bigoted views in public is a revelation, because during a re-read, you start seeing these views reflecting everywhere in her writing. It’s a deeply prejudiced and irrational world, and it stayed that way all the way to the ending with nothing in that world really changed.
I think being an adult is realizing that I don’t love Harry Potter as much as I used to, because (I can’t believe I’m saying this) I’ve finally outgrown it. It’s time to move on.
Being a grown-up is painful.
The world is fine (if flawed and sometimes generic). The real issue is there isn’t a single good character in them. Hermione is alright, with her desire to free the elves and generally no accepting of the status quo. Even she seems to stop caring about this after they’re free and capable of doing something about it. There’s not a single progressive person in those worlds. There are only not totally evil (but accepting of banal evils) people. Being against Hitler doesn’t make you a good person, it only makes you not a literal Nazi.
Neville is the only somewhat progressive character. It’s just a transformation from loser to hero, but at least he never tossed his core values.
All adults in the HP universe are terrible people, the only adult with a lick of integrity is McGonagall.
A broken clock is right sometimes. I don’t believe never being good it says anything about the author, the author just forgot to fuck him up…
Well, as others in this thread have said, misgender him back. Give him a taste of his own medicine.
A big part of that is context, I think. When we were children, we didn’t have the knowledge or developed brains to recognize these things. And the lossy nature of our memory leads us to skew towards remembering things in more idealized manners, probably because it is easier to recall things as “concentrates” of reality. The parts that we, as adults, recognize as problematic don’t tend to be remembered as significant because, when making the initial memories as children, we lacked the context to flag them as such.
I think being an adult is realizing that I don’t love Harry Potter as much as I used to, because (I can’t believe I’m saying this) I’ve finally outgrown it. It’s time to move on.
On other hand, this realization frees you in a way and may potentially inspire you seek out or create another piece of art to love (and potentially share with others). While I disagree with a significant section of the population and believe that art is inseparably and indelibly linked to the artist, it is important still to be kind to our past selves and not judge them for what they didn’t know. That still doesn’t entirely soften the blow of “breaking up” with a piece of art that one has loved but, it can help with accepting it.
Being a grown-up is painful.
It’s also joyful, terrible, wonderful, enraging, sorrowful, and countless other feelings and possibilities. I think it’s beautiful, even if not always comfortable. And the uncomfortable bits provide contrast to the positive, letting them seem to shine a bit more brilliantly. Though, that could also be the near-pathological optimism that I adopted to cope with depression in my younger years.
inspire you seek out or create another piece of art to love (and potentially share with others)
I think we did a pretty good job on that recently. :)
If you’re referring to the recent film, I think that you did indeed and hope your colleagues and yourself are proud of it. Nice to have a film that’s a bit more light-hearted (without being too saccharine) and, especially considering the thread topic, that embraces a diverse set of people in the cast and supports universal agency.
The first few HP movies around the holidays don’t hurt nobody!
Unless a certain someone you know never stops reminding you that he was in thoses movies…
Does Daniel keep pestering you about it too? God he’s such a drama queen.
If someone doesn’t want to respect others who cares?
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You poor thing
Thank you, I feel better meow
I’m sorry you’re having a hard time in life. For what it’s worth, there are lots of people who would not be burdened and would take your pronouns seriously.
For a better day where once you’re ready to share!
what a weirdo lol
Enjoy jail then I guess. It’s a pretty stupid hill to die on, especially when you’re filthy rich and the conservatives already hate you over the whole witchcraft nonsense. I cannot fathom conservative doublethink.
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For a gender that less than 0.5% of the population identifies as (Wiki numbers, 355 people out of 100,000), we sure do argue about this a lot, don’t we?
It’s just one of the culture war angles propagated by the rich to keep everyone angry with each other while they reap up as much of the world’s wealth as possible before any of the forthcoming disasters- whether that is climate crisis migration, the next financial crisis, AI unemployment crisis, further war, food and water shortages worldwide, etc…
The writing is on the wall, a majority of people can see it too if you ask them, but unfortunately people can’t help but get sucked in anyway. Probably because it’s a distraction from facing the uncertain future we all have.
OR, this is just a tinfoil hat getting the better of me. It feels like a logical conclusion, so maybe that’s the fallacy I’ve fallen for.
No, you’re right. Between 2009 and 2011, both the left and the right had their popular class movements with Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party. The risk of both sides coming together to attack the rich was too dangerous. Shortly after that we had Obama and other business and political leaders talking about “systemic racial discrimination.” Boy has that divided us. An incredibly effective tool to convince us idiots that race has ANYTHING to do with our differences. Poor people have far more in common with each other than they do with the rich. The trans issue has been injected to stoke the fires more, and everyone has been quick to jump on board.
You know what? If we’re too stupid to see through this obvious charade, maybe this is what we deserve.
Holy fuck you are so dense. Bringing up the tea party as a way of class solidarity? You are either lying or ignorant.
Please, learn about the shit you spew if you actually care, but I assume you don’t since here you are spewing nonsense.
I don’t know what you mean by “class solidarity,” but it was born in the fires of the 2008/2009 bank bailouts in which millions of ordinary people were wiped out financially while the financial institutions were given trillions of dollars. There was a lot of anger at the perception of crony capitalism and elites. The movement itself was grassroots and clearly feared by the powerful. You might not like the goals of the movement, but their anger was palpable, and at one point, something like 10% of the country identified with the movement. There was no way the rich and powerful could let ordinary citizens form such a powerful voting bloc.
The tea party movement wasn’t grassroots at that point as it was being funded almost entirely by billionaires and groups like Americans for Prosperity. What you’re saying here is almost the exact opposite of reality.
This is probably the most hilarious overreaction I’ve seen in a while.
Not OP, but I don’t think they mean that the Tea Party was part of class solidarity, but more that it was a movement that was unorchestrated by the powers that be and could, if left unanswered, lead to threatening the status quo, aka super wealthy.
Never underestimate the will of bigots to obsess over other people’s genitalia.
Edit: I said the above to be facetious and poke fun at these wall-eyed transphobic lunatics. I realise that trans / NB issues encompass SO much more than that, and I was being deliberately reductive in order to make a point. I hope that comes through ❤️
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You don’t have to learn them all, just use the ones the person asks you to. This is like saying “there’s like 100,000 names and I’m supposed to know them all? You’re just Jack or Jane to me.”
Also, almost no one uses any form of neopronouns. They just use the classic three of she/he/they. Or a combination of them.
“Jessica? There’s no Jessica in the Bible dammit. You’re either Adam or Eve and I’m gonna say you look like an Eve.”
“there are over 100 fucking names now and I’m too stupid to learn anything other than you”. No one is asking you to be psychic but instead to give their pronouns the same respect that they give your name. If you don’t know them it’s whatever but if you do and don’t use them on purpose you’re being intentionally disrespectful. Like if I know your name is Bob and call you Barbra on purpose that’s disrespectful.
Digs at people’s physical appearance are unwarranted here.
I hope that comes through ❤️
Clear as a bell. Anyone shitting on you is as tone-deaf as JK.
Even if they were only 1 in a billion. They still deserve to exist and live their lives how they like if it doesn’t negatively affect others.
They do, and they should get on with that, and start ignoring people who don’t agree with them, their lifestyle, or use of language. You cannot enforce your own ideas about your identity on anyone else, because they are also entitled to have their own ideas. All a person can do is just live. Celebrity opinions are not law, and should not be paid such attention as if they matter.
Better that than throwing off the shackles of the oppressor and rising up against the oligarch class.
Those brown lads area after your crumbs! That man wants to be called “they”! Ooh look, Israel/Gaza, pick a side! Look at this jobless woman with her fancy flat screen television! Does eating Wotsits cure cancer? Distract yourselves with yourselves.
Can I interest you in everything, all of the time?
a little bit
Apathy’s a tragedy and boredom is a crime.
Anything and everything, all of the time.
Has anyone in any country ever been incarcerated for misgendering a trans person? Is there even a significant number of people who seriously believe that would be an appropriate response?
Nope.
Just come out and tell us about your victimhood complex, Joanne.
In fact it’s the other way around. Plenty of people have been incarcerated and worse for simply being trans
Exactly! It’s like going to jail for having someone presenting themselves as Joanne and you always call them Joanna. How will it ever be so much of a concern to throw someone in jail and destroy their future over it, Joanna? HOW??
It’s about the influential power. She’s presenting a potentially dangerous rhetoric. She really does have the power to create a new wave of hate if she really wanted to.
This post is occupied by misogynists. Lemmy is a new Reddit for sure.
I don’t see misogynistic posts, maybe they’ve been deleted or are too far down the comment trees?
Can you give me an example?
If you don’t see them, you’re the problem as well.
Can you please give me an example of one of the misogynistic posts?
Most comments here are misogynistic. Open your eyes.
I don’t seem to see them.
Maybe the comments you see are from an instance that lemmy.ca is defederated from, but is still connected to lemmy.world. This would mean that you can see them, but I can’t.
Can you please give me an example of one of the misogynistic posts?
Does she realize what a complete arsehole that makes her look? She’d rather go to jail than treat people like human beings?
It’s hyperbole and she is referring to being forced to think a particular thing. She’s not wrong on the premise. But no one wants to analyze this because thinking and discord are hard.
She can still think whatever she wants, she just isn’t allowed to call people names they don’t want.
It is like me calling you “asshole” the whole time, and then proudly announcing that I would rather go to jail than stop calling you asshole.
She can call people whatever she wants that’s the point. You don’t go to jail for calling me an asshole. Being forced to use speech that counters her actual thoughts is the part she’s willing to go to jail for. You would likely do the same for your own beliefs.
He doesn’t.
assuming you didn’t make a typo, this ain’t cute. The signal you’re sending is that respecting pronouns is a privilege you reserve for people you agree with.
It’s more that I’m giving her a taste of her own medicine. She doesn’t extend this basic courtesy to people she disagrees with, so why should anyone give it to her?
Because the signal you’re sending to trans people is that you don’t think respecting our pronouns is a human right.
She is so vile and toxic in such obvious ways - why not attack her for her wrongs instead?
Because it isn’t just hurting she/her, it is also hurting the people who want to be called a different pronouns.
So better to keep referring to her cis pronouns every time she/her is mentioned.
How so?
Personally I think pronouns should be abolished altogether - think of the cumulative time you could save by trimming the language like that. Trim the fat. After all, why use many word when few word do trick?
Completely agreed.
Pronouns stem from a time when it mattered whether or not a sentence was about a man or a woman. Sentences about men were given a higher status.
Once we accepted women are equal to men, it really doesn’t matter what the gender is of the person the sentence is about. They are human, that should be enough.
I’ve been replacing all pronouns with they/them for a while, even in my daily life.
Pronouns are double plus ungood.
Said same thing to friend, earlier. Said to was a stupid idea and need functional words to build meaningful sentences. Don’t agree with.
Yet here I am, reading your sentence twice to understand it.
Why read twice when once do trick?
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I get that its hyperbole. Its basically too much hyperbole though in my opinion. Its not worth that much to be respectful in conversation.
Also fuck you for that last part. “God damn all males are a danger, have you never heard of x serial killer” is how you sound.
Being a psychopath and being transgender are two completely different things.Yes, that’s called being a TERF. And when anyone calls them out on it, someone goes “oh but they’re standing up for all those poor women and girls.” Gtfo.
Not all trans are like this…
Then why even bring it up?
We don’t judge demographics by the actions of individuals. If we did, both cis men and cis women would be banned from every aspect of society.
But for trans women, it seems to be fair game to dig for crimes and then make this sort of two-faced statement where you are definitely saying that we should view trans women with suspicion, but won’t come out and just be transphobic openly.
Because how many trans people are there compared with straight people?
And society does, very much judge outsider demographics on the worst actions of individuals.
And society does, very much judge outsider demographics on the worst actions of individuals.
Yes that’s the point I’m making, sweetheart. That we don’t judge most people by the actions of individuals but for minorities, it’s fair game.
Unless you are saying that it is right for people to do that?
Looks like an excellent block list candidate to me.
That’s some twisted reasoning by the judge. Children shouldn’t get into a stranger’s car regardless of their gender.
The notion that this girl would have acted differently to a man is ridiculous. Hopefully this is just bad journalism.
Why won’t everyone else align with my hateful views!
Wow if one guy gets you all up in arms you are gonna lose it when you hear about the Catholic Church
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Even if you disagree, using a pronoun is just polite. She’d have to go out of her way to do this.
You can’t not use pronouns. It’s about using the correct ones. Why do some people think pronouns are new? “You” is a pronoun, for example. It has nothing to do with gender.
Not sure why you assume this? I never made the claim
Even if you disagree, using a pronoun is just polite.
It may have just been a typo, but I’m seen far too many people who think pronouns are a modern invention that has to do with gender identity. Sorry if it was just a mistake.
It’s not a typo, I just lazily wrote the comment like I’d speak.
He’d have to go out of his way to do this.
Start misgendering him and see how frustrated he gets.
That makes her the second gigantic prominent shithead in as many days expressing that they’re willing to go to prison for their beliefs. And also the second whom I wouldn’t believe for even a millisecond that they’re telling the truth.
