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He really does know how to keep yall pushing their SEO score higher
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Cute that you think she’s go to anything resembling a normal prison and not a white collar cell where the worst she deals with it eating freeze dried food sometimes
I’m sorry, you can go to prison for “using the wrong pronouns”? What dystopian hell hole do we live in?
It could be classed as a hate crime. Don’t worry you ain’t going to get jailed for accidentally using the wrong pronouns.
I still think it’s idiotic, and I say that as a trans person.
Deal.
Was my exact reaction when I read this this morning before moving on.
She’s just jealous Glinner’s got a book out and she thinks she needs to raise her TERF game.
Enjoy jail then I guess. It’s a pretty stupid hill to die on, especially when you’re filthy rich and the conservatives already hate you over the whole witchcraft nonsense. I cannot fathom conservative doublethink.
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This post is occupied by misogynists. Lemmy is a new Reddit for sure.
I don’t see misogynistic posts, maybe they’ve been deleted or are too far down the comment trees?
Can you give me an example?
If you don’t see them, you’re the problem as well.
Can you please give me an example of one of the misogynistic posts?
Most comments here are misogynistic. Open your eyes.
I don’t seem to see them.
Maybe the comments you see are from an instance that lemmy.ca is defederated from, but is still connected to lemmy.world. This would mean that you can see them, but I can’t.
Can you please give me an example of one of the misogynistic posts?
what a weirdo lol
It’s almost like people are looking for a reason to talk about how much they hate JKR, and in turn promote her.
The Streisand effect is in full display here.
Everytime people bring out the three minute hate drum, the righteous come around and sneer, so there is a echo chamber, but there’s always somebody new, somebody who’s never been introduced to the debate before, who now pays attention to this person… And they might end up agreeing with this person.
So giving all this attention to one person over and over again, is creating them more converts than it’s costing them. It’s just promoting the personality at this point. It’d be more effective to ignore them, and just promote your own viewpoint. There wouldn’t be any controversy, there wouldn’t be free media attention…
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/opinion/jk-rowling-transphobia.html
Because she has asserted the right to spaces for biological women only, such as domestic abuse shelters and sex-segregated prisons. Because she has insisted that when it comes to determining a person’s legal gender status, self-declared gender identity is insufficient. Because she has expressed skepticism about phrases like “people who menstruate” in reference to biological women.
Her take isn’t crazy - it’s not supportive, but not phobic either, and she clearly enjoys the media attention and public debate. She thrives in it… so she wins everytime people give her attention
It’s almost like Rowling is always looking for a reason to talk about how much she hates trans people.
No matter where you stand on it you have to admit it’s kind of sad with all her wealth and fame this is how she spends her energy
If we stop talking about her, she stops winning. Maybe she could spend her new found free time to actually write instead of being on social media.
Ignoring bigots only encourages more bigotry. She needs to be called out on her bullshit each and every time. Whether or not it has any effect on her isn’t the point - it shows others that such behavior is not acceptable.
How much time is she willing to do to avoid minding her own fucking business. I’m guessing it’s a lot
She’s an attention seeker honestly
Basically all TERFs are whiny attention seekers
True
Her opinion on pronouns is her own business. The world is free to stop asking her about it.
You made it into a discussion thread about the subject, so…
If it’s her own business why won’t she shut the fuck up about it?
Please. She’s CONSTANTLY on Twitter spouting her bullshit
It is really easy to not follow someone on Twitter. I do not follow her, and I never see her Tweets.
Has anyone in any country ever been incarcerated for misgendering a trans person? Is there even a significant number of people who seriously believe that would be an appropriate response?
Nope.
Just come out and tell us about your victimhood complex, Joanne.
In fact it’s the other way around. Plenty of people have been incarcerated and worse for simply being trans
Exactly! It’s like going to jail for having someone presenting themselves as Joanne and you always call them Joanna. How will it ever be so much of a concern to throw someone in jail and destroy their future over it, Joanna? HOW??
It’s about the influential power. She’s presenting a potentially dangerous rhetoric. She really does have the power to create a new wave of hate if she really wanted to.
That’s cool, nobodies going to give in to her persecution fetish tho lmao.
Just stop being an asshole, nobody believe your “on the premise of freedom” arguments, it’s super simple.
They’re like that kid in grade school who calls the male teacher mrs. such and such and think it’s still hilarious
Off with her/she head!!!
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Even if you disagree, using a pronoun is just polite. She’d have to go out of her way to do this.
You can’t not use pronouns. It’s about using the correct ones. Why do some people think pronouns are new? “You” is a pronoun, for example. It has nothing to do with gender.
Not sure why you assume this? I never made the claim
Even if you disagree, using a pronoun is just polite.
It may have just been a typo, but I’m seen far too many people who think pronouns are a modern invention that has to do with gender identity. Sorry if it was just a mistake.
It’s not a typo, I just lazily wrote the comment like I’d speak.
He’d have to go out of his way to do this.
Start misgendering him and see how frustrated he gets.
Some people are just ugly on the inside, deep down where it counts.
To be fair, she’s ugly on the outside too…
Does she realize what a complete arsehole that makes her look? She’d rather go to jail than treat people like human beings?
He doesn’t.
assuming you didn’t make a typo, this ain’t cute. The signal you’re sending is that respecting pronouns is a privilege you reserve for people you agree with.
It’s more that I’m giving her a taste of her own medicine. She doesn’t extend this basic courtesy to people she disagrees with, so why should anyone give it to her?
Because the signal you’re sending to trans people is that you don’t think respecting our pronouns is a human right.
She is so vile and toxic in such obvious ways - why not attack her for her wrongs instead?
Because it isn’t just hurting she/her, it is also hurting the people who want to be called a different pronouns.
So better to keep referring to her cis pronouns every time she/her is mentioned.
How so?
Personally I think pronouns should be abolished altogether - think of the cumulative time you could save by trimming the language like that. Trim the fat. After all, why use many word when few word do trick?
Pronouns are double plus ungood.
Said same thing to friend, earlier. Said to was a stupid idea and need functional words to build meaningful sentences. Don’t agree with.
Yet here I am, reading your sentence twice to understand it.
Why read twice when once do trick?
Completely agreed.
Pronouns stem from a time when it mattered whether or not a sentence was about a man or a woman. Sentences about men were given a higher status.
Once we accepted women are equal to men, it really doesn’t matter what the gender is of the person the sentence is about. They are human, that should be enough.
I’ve been replacing all pronouns with they/them for a while, even in my daily life.
It’s hyperbole and she is referring to being forced to think a particular thing. She’s not wrong on the premise. But no one wants to analyze this because thinking and discord are hard.
She can still think whatever she wants, she just isn’t allowed to call people names they don’t want.
It is like me calling you “asshole” the whole time, and then proudly announcing that I would rather go to jail than stop calling you asshole.
She can call people whatever she wants that’s the point. You don’t go to jail for calling me an asshole. Being forced to use speech that counters her actual thoughts is the part she’s willing to go to jail for. You would likely do the same for your own beliefs.
