Didn’t they do some shady stuff before too? I was pretty confused why some people still recommended it
The browser is highly performant, contains (nearly) all necessary (usability and privacy) features and is suitable for beginners.
The search has a nice interface that is usable without javascript, has an onion site and should be low on telemetry. It also (in my opinion) has the best search results after Google. And these search results are Brave’s own results, not just resold Bing results; so they’re actually bringing real competition to the search engine market.
I know people advertise a lot of good things for Brave. But I’ve never seen them. It’s installed in my system, it’s what I spin up to enter shady websites (don’t ask), because it works well with ad based hidden link providers. But it’s not that performant, vanilla Brave is way slower than riced up Firefox on my system. It shows sponsored ads, it straight tells you that it might collect data, it’s bloated with buttons and crypto bullshit. I just don’t see what any of the shills are talking about, and it sells your activity on the browser to AI trainers because their search engine is just that, a meta search engine crawler, sorry but it’s just like any other browser.
They got their start redirecting ads to sponsored ads. I’ve never understood the love for that browser.
Dammit now I have no good choice for a browser on Android. https://divestos.org/pages/browsers https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing
Edit: OK, I think I’ll use this from now on, basicially the continuation of Bromite: https://github.com/uazo/bromite-buildtools
Damnit Brave.
I guess I gotta go figure out how to turn off ads in DDG for Android.
Setting Android private DNS to either Adguard’s or Mullvad’s AdBlock DNS (or whoever else) can help a bit, but won’t catch all ads, especially ones embedded like on YouTube.
What’s wrong with Firefox + uBlock Origin?
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Firefox Focus?
happy firefox user for over 5 years now, glad i will never use chromium trash like this
I am not useng Brave much as of recently, except for maybe mobile because of UWP apps. Firefox has become really fast in recent versions, and even when I have 8 extensions on, it still opens pages in a breeze. And it is more customizable than most of the other browsers. I do however like DDG Browser’s minimalism and use of WebKit, so if I want a very minimal browser with barely any extras whatsoever that respects my privacy, I go to DDG Browser.
I tried Brave for a couple days but I kept getting notifications from it that were ads. Brave had to go.
One of the founders, Brendan Eich, donated his money to take away the equal right for same-sex couples to marry in California (Prop 8). He never acknowledge that it was mistake, so I can only assume that he truly wants to see the marriages of same-sex couples erased, which is quite a hateful thing to desire.
I went from Chrome to FireFox back to Chrome and now to Brave. Brave has actually made me miss Firefox a bit. I’m going to stick with Brave a bit though, I like the Tor functionality and the Wallet function feels useless. I’m not too sure how secure having a copy of your COLD Wallet is on your browser. Additionally, I’ve been looking into Nord VPN that I also completely passed over the integrated VPN functionality as well.
Did nobody read the article? The author is crying that Brave implemented a summary feature so users don’t have to read through entire paragraphs to get to the actual content. Of course, he goes on and on about copyright and OpenAI, nothing really about user data.
I was a big Brave supporter back in 2019-2020 when it seemed to have a lot of momentum behind it. But they squandered any goodwill they had with their crypto add-ons and rewards
I’ve been using Brave for over a year now and really like it. Nearly all the functionality of Chrome with none of the privacy issues.
I would use firefox but more and more websites require a specific browser technology or even a specific browser.
Can anyone recommend a good alternative that works well under Linux and block ads and trackers well? In particular YouTube ads?
librewolf is a good option that’s hardened out of the box
uBlock Origin for blocking advertisements everywhere, works with YouTube too. SponsorBlock for automatically skipping parts of YouTube videos with sponsored advertising.
I use Vivaldi + AdNauseam (though they have a built-in adblocker which I have disabled.)
Firefox with uBlock Origin has been working well for me, for ads at least. I haven’t looked too much into blocking trackers but I think Firefox has some ability to do that
Yeah it has some and if it doesnt work Extensions can help out. As it uses still the v2 manifest. It is just straight up better to use firefox ( or their “children” like librefox ( a bit hardend firefox browser ). It doesnt depending on chromium, its not a big Corporate that is super greedy.
Firefox with uBlock Origin ✔
What about a search engine though?
DuckDuckGo
I used to use it but switched to brave after reading that DDG lied about tracking.
Any others? (and not the one that requires a subscription, thanks)DDG lied about tracking
FWIW though, I think that agreement no longer applies. I getchu though, on the principle of the matter, assuming they actually lied about it. E.g., if they said, “we don’t let any tracking through,” without mentioning their deal with Microsoft. If they just said, “we block most trackers,” and let people hype it up in their heads though, that’s kind of a gray area IMHO.
DDG also curates/censors/biases the results though.
And even if the company thinks it’s for a good reason, they’ve set themselves a precedent and now we don’t know what else they could be curating, censoring or biasing in their search results.
tbf I didn’t know about the agreement no longer being relevant, but yeah, like you say it’s a grey area and weakens the trust at least some.
If I don’t find any better alternative I guess its back to the duck I go…I guess its back to the duck I go…
That’s the reality of the situation unfortunately. No infallible heroes, just fifty shades of grey.
Startpage supposedly uses Google’s search engine without tracking your ip.
Not heard of them, will check it out, thanks!
E: a quick look tells me it doesn’t work with VPN, so that’s a no from me…
That’s strange, I use Mullvad VPN and Startpage is my main search engine and It’s only given me trouble once. They made me fill a captcha and wait a while in order to be able to use it again, but it was just an our at most.
I think that topic got really heated back then. DDG is far more transparent than any other companies and also did a statement regarding this. Besides that it’s still the most private search engine next to Searxng. And SearXNG is less convenient.
That’s also the reason why it is still used within the Tor browser for example.
This is the golden combo in my opinion. uBlock Origin is an excellent adblocker and it works best with Firefox. The built-in privacy features of Firefox are also decent, even when left at the default settings.
Libre Wolf with uBlock preinstalled could be what you need.
As I user, how does this impact me?
Websites become less profitable and need to show more ads to survive.
And Brave blocks ads. The circle closes itself.
Seriously though, internet seems to me to be like a shopping mall and websites tend to be store fronts in the past few years. Search engines have to survive too and tend to be the mall directory. If it wasn’t for the fediverse I’d hardly visit any websites. If you have any suggestions on how I and others could improve our browsing experience, I would be grateful.
Websites become less profitable
That’s why I use AdNauseam (a fork of uBlock but with a nicer philosophy).
Websites become less profitable
i mean… they link to the websites that info was crawled from. And this only applies to their search engine’s ai summarizer feature which has existed for quite a while now, not the browser. And bing/chatgpt/others are equally as worse, why the hate on brave specifically?
as a user this only benefits you, you should only really be worried as a content creator, and this only applies to their search engine’s ai summarizer feature (which you can disable)
LOL, about half the points in the article are struck through now. Yet another “journalist” who doesn’t understand how anything works getting angry how they way they imagine it works.
That’s some quality reporting “stackdiary”.