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What irks me about the larger phones is that there is so much wasted screen real estate. The phone doubled in size, but can only show me half the number of items on my shopping list?
That sounds more like an iPhone problem than a large phone problem. You have complete control over both text size and display scaling in Android.
Google and Android aren’t perfect but fuck man I love Android.
Buttfuck Man, my favorite super hero of all time. Can’t wait till he gets his own movie.
And this wasn’t just any but fuck man. It was the “perfect but fuck man I love”!
I just wish phones would get thicker, instead of longer. So they can fit beefier batteries.
I’d love to be able to charge my phone like twice a week
My phone is about 15cm (~5¾ in) tall, and to me, that’s the absolute maximum. It’s slightly too big. The width, about 7cm (~2¾ in) is totally fine.
This (Galaxy XCover 5) was the smallest phone that seemed to exist (and I wanted one woth durability, removable battery, SD slot, headphones etc). It was very expensive though.
Trying to find cheaper ones for various people in the extended family, they all specified “oh, not bigger than my current one”, but it was impossible. There’s basically nothing less than 16cm tall, and most are even bigger.
I’m scared of this one breaking. The XCover 6 is 17cm x 8cm.
That size os about the max for me too. I wonder what I’m gonna do if my current phone fails…
If it were shoes I’d say “just get ten sets of what’s the right size”, but the problem with tech is we’re still going to want more ram, more storage etc.
Like who is going to keep all the buttons, ports, dimensions and connectivity, whilst upgrading the innards?
Like a Thinkpad of phones?
I… don’t really see your point. Could you elaborate?
Computers, for example, reduced significantly with time. Better technology is allowing to put more transistors in smaller packages and fit more components in the same space. At the same time, the move to digital connectivity allows to save more space.
Anyway, even if we had the thinkpad of phones, why can’t we also have the raspberry pi of phones?
Sorry, I was unclear. I’ve got a pair of workshoes that fit me perfectly - so I bought 5 pairs exactly the same. When my current pair wears out in a year, I’ll replace it with an identical pair.
It would be tempting to buy 5 copies of my current phone - except by the time this one breaks in 3-4 years, the innards (processor/ram/storage) will be poor in comparison to newer versions, and it may not be able to run newer versions of software.
It is a shame that no company is saying “lets keep it basically the same on the outside, but improve the internal specs” - they tend to do things like making it bigger, removing headphone ports, removing other physical buttons, or making it thinner but giving it a rubbish battery that’s nonreplaceable.
I used Thinkpad as a comparison, as you can still buy an older model of Thinkpad and pack it with newer innards - so buy the older model with the case you like, but refurbished with more ram, a better processor etc.
If you put my 2 year old Thinkpad laptop next to my old one, they look pretty much the same, except the new one is thinner and much lighter - they still both have physical touchpad buttons, the trackpoint, lots of ports down both sides. I can still use my older laptop bag, because they’re nominally the same size and shape.
I wish some phone models followed a similar process - “here’s the same thing you already have, but better”.
I would absolutely love a barebones, tiny, configurable Raspberry Pi of phones.
Now I get it, thanks for taking your time to explain. I feel the same, not only about phones, but with hardware in general.
Galaxy S23 is 14.6×7.1cm, so almost the same.
That looks perfect - until I saw it’s £850! My current phone was about £250, which was more expensive than I wanted - but the only one that was small enough and had the dust/water/drop-off-a-ladder resistance.
Still, those S23s may be cheap in a few years when they’re “old” :)
Xperia 10 V is 15.5x6.8 cm. Might be worth a try
That’s not bad actually, still bigger though - but not by as much as most :)
A small phone with flagship features are not happening.
To get a smaller phone, you have to give up screen quality, camera quality, fingerprint scanners and other flagship features.
I just want a small flip phone that acts as a smartwatch paired to my main phone. Nobody makes that either.
The zenfone would like to have a word with you.
Oh? Does it do some of the things I’ve come to believe are impossible?
I mean take a look at it’s spec sheet, i love mine it’s a really solid phone. Only thing i wish it had was a micro sd slot and ir blaster.
I just want a small flip phone that acts as a smartwatch paired to my main phone. Nobody makes that either.
This exactly.
I’ve been dying for a refreshed Galaxy Folder but with Samsung Dex.
Give me a basic flip phone, my essential Android apps, and key me use the powerful processor docked in desktop mode like a laptop.
I just want a small flip phone that acts as a smartwatch paired to my main phone. Nobody makes that either.
I’m sorry but this sounds even more fucking stupid than smartwatches*
Yeah, it’s a specific use case thing that wouldn’t make sense for most people.
I could see it being good for construction or something, keep your main phone in a bag or whatever while you have a paired flip phone on ya. If it gets destroyed due to whatever reason itd be easier to replace.
Yes, that is the kind of use case I’m talking about. Rather than beefing up a thousand dollar phone with a case and a holster, I’d rather keep the good phone somewhere safe while I take a far cheaper handset in my pocket.
Right now, the way I could have that is to have 2 lines with different phone numbers and different phone plans, so the monthly cost doesn’t work out.
I used to have a Motorola Droid Mini, which was just a Droid Maxx with a smaller screen and battery.
Loved the build quality of that phone.
The mini had a terrible TFT LCD screen.
One less camera is fine, the other things make no sense. Good screens don’t take more space, and fingerprint readers are tiny.
It doubly makes no sense when you consider that we did have small flagship phones until recently.
Actually, the Xperia 5 series from Sony is “small” in comparison, so is the Pixel 8 and they all have the same hardware specs - except the zoom lense. Which is a damn shame, because my Pixel 6 Pro is just a tad too big. I wouldn’t wanna go back to my Xperia Z1 Compact, tbh. 4,3" is not big enough anymore…
People have been saying this for the last 5 years and will continue saying this for the next 5 years. They make less smaller phones cuz people don’t buy them
That will be a side effect of them locking abitrary features behind the bigger and thus more expensive models, if there was feature parity smaller phones would probably still be the norm.
There are some features that just can’t be equal between a bigger phone and a smaller one (or would require gimping the bigger phone) like a bigger screen (obviously), bigger battery and more size for larger camera sensors
If you can figure out a way to cram all of the shit in a 15 Pro Max into a form factor the size of an iPhone 4 not only will Apple suck your dick in the form of a well-earned half million dollar salary but you’ll likely get a Nobel Prize for breakthroughs in quantum computing and also making atoms smaller.
Is this bait?
No, I agree with his point. Features do take space. Maybe we can make space for a headphone jack (🙄), but consumers demand more cameras, with a larger sensor, faster and more power hungry processors, bigger batteries. With any space limitation (even the Pro Max comes with a space limitation because it can’t become an iPad…) there are feature tradeoffs, and obviously a smaller phone will fit fewer cameras, less cooling, a smaller battery, etc.
Of course they do. The S23 for example is smaller than the iPhone 15, was the same price on release (came out Feb 2023) and has features beating the iPhone 15 Pro Max, a much bigger and more recent device. Most features/hardware on the bigger phones exist in smaller phones, most of the extra space on larger phones is usually just taken up by a larger battery anyway. They can go watch some teardowns, look into all the software locked features like with the recent Pixel 8 phones, instead of blindly jumping to the defence of these mega-corporations who only want to upsell.
But yes, obviously some features are a lot harder to fit in a smaller space, but I thought that was the obvious asterisk to my comment. Perhaps they should spend some R&D on figuring that out though, rather than rehashing the same devices year after year which is just leading to e-waste.
(I’d love the 3.5mm port back too, but they all want to sell their wireless ‘buds’ now, so not going to happen for that reason alone :c)
So in other words it wasn’t bait and you fucking knew that but you wanted to be willfully obtuse.
Are you that dense?
It’s a very realistic example of what you would have to do to cram all of the shit from a large phone into a small phone. The features that are cut aren’t fucking “arbitrary” unless you want to classify every feature difference as “abitrary” thereby making your definition of arbitrary meaningless.
So yes, it was bait.
Sure, just make it fatter.
That solution has been rejected every time it has been tried.
Rejected by who though? And has it really? All phones used to be fatter
By consumers. Repeatedly.
Not true. Many of the smaller phones on the market have additional features that the bigger ones don’t. Or at least they used to when they existed.
There is simply less space inside smaller phones to add same features and battery as a larger model.
And then they can’t justify small model having same, high price as pro versions, so they cut features to go along with reduced price.
Yeah, I only got the Pixel 6 Pro because of the zoom lense…i would not have chosen it otherwise. It’s too big…
Me for the pixel 8 pro. I’d rather the regular pixel 8 but if I’m going to keep this thing for 7 years (which I will; typing from a pixel 2) then I want it to be as feature rich as possible. Not looking forward to how big it’s going to be when it finally gets delivered
Good lucky keeping it for so long… I’m having lots of little issues with my 6 Pro…
As a woman: I’d love to use bigger phones - as soon as they give me pockets I can fit them into.
It’s one of the reasons I find foldables so interesting. The Google Pixel Fold has the perfect form factor. If only it wasn’t so expensive…
As a woman - I don’t have a problem with pockets, I usually get them enlarged. The problem is with our small hands, which would make using a large phone one-handed impossible. The older smartphone I am still sometimes using as a modem/mp3 player is 7x14 cm, and this is absolutely my maximum. I mostly use a dumbphone, it is smaller than my palm and fits even in a shirt pocket.
Absolutely untrue. It’s a heat dissipation issue. iPhone minis had so many issues with heat they can’t make em anymore.
Apple wants you to think that bigger phones are better only because they can’t make them smaller.
I feel like hopefully with a potential paradigm shift, maybe one SIM card and number shared between several devices, one large phone or tablet for work or movies and a smaller feature phone for on demand urgent communications, we’ll hopefully see the market for OEMs open up a bit wider and allow for further competition/collaboration across the whole portable electronics sector
Try a large phone and you’ll stay for the battery life alone.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
But for gadget enthusiasts like me, Google had other plans: it’s arbitrarily pushing buyers to the ginormous Pixel 8 Pro instead, bragging about how its larger handset can handle niftier features even though both phones have the same cameras and chips.
Plus, Samsung doesn’t actually let you use it like a small phone by default — you’ve gotta jump through hoops to use apps on the outer screen.
It’s called Unihertz, and its Jelly line is tiny and has nifty features like a BlackBerry keyboard or programmable buttons and extra LEDs.
The project hasn’t had a meaningful update in five months, and team leader Benjamin Bryant admits he had to pause to look for consulting work on the side.
“Samsung Display US is willing to champion us; the challenge will be convincing the Korean HQ that we are a viable enough project for them to invest time and resources into,” Bryant tells me.
Bryant admits that, in general, the small phone outlook is “bleak” and that some of his prospective customers “will be forced to upgrade in the coming year.”
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Haven’t thought of small phones in a while, unless you look into dumb phones, like Nokia 3310 reboot.
Great little phone, but does not have smart features that smart phones have.
Nice to see the sizes being compared, I was not expecting it, but wow have phone become huge.
I wonder if Pine64 or similar would create a small phone, they have launched phones before…
The PPP is still too far from being useful for me to think they could deliver a uzbl small phone
They will have to pry my iPhone 13 mini from my cold dead hands! Small phone gang unite! ✊
I still have an SE 2020 and now wondering if I can get a Mini. I had a 6+ and got rid of it because it made my hand cramp. I hate big phones.
They won’t. It’ll break and you won’t be able to repair it before then.
The 13 mini made me switch to apple after years of android and even Ubuntu phone.
The form factor is the only reason I buy a new phone so let’s hope there’s still be a market for people like us.
Fellow 13 mini user here, and I’ve never loved a phone more.
iphone 13 is gaint! I don’t I’m on the same page as you lol
I want a smaller smartphone but not an iPhone. It’s sad that Apple is the only manufacturer still producing reasonable sized phones. Small phone gang unite and push for other manufacturers to follow Apple on this one!
Unfortunately even Apple has announced they are discontinuing their smaller phone, citing poor sales, so it seems the small phone gang is too small to have any market power.
Small people want small phones. Small people have small hands. Small hands can’t carry very much money.
It’s simple economics.
Lol. You would think that, but I’m a small person counter example, and the market is proving there are more like me than those who want small phones.
They say that all the time because it disposes of the issue without them needing to provide any evidence.
What’s your alternative theory?
What do you mean?
They don’t want to make a product. They say “consumers don’t like it”. You ask for evidence. They say it’s confidential, or they deliberately sabotage the availability of the product and say, “see?”
It’s standard marketing.
I’m asking for your theory as to Apple’s reason for cancelling the small phone since you don’t believe the reason they’ve provided.
Deciding to make or not make a product is not a simple thing. Lots of decisions are part of it.
They just don’t want to talk about it and want you to buy one of their other products.
They haven’t made it in two years now. They stopped with the 13.
Right, but I’m pretty sure they never said anything about discontinuing it altogether when the iPhone 14 came out, and most people just assumed they were just skipping a year on it. It wasn’t until right before they released the 15 lineup that they said the smaller phone was actually discontinued.
They never officially discontinued the mini line in the first place. They just didn’t release new models after the 13. The announcement that they discontinued it was that they were discontinuing production of the 13 mini, which they had kept making alongside the regular 13 after the 14 lineup was released. Up until the release of the 15s, you could still buy the 13 mini new from Apple. Discontinuing the 13 mini killed off any way to buy one new.
There’s still strong rumors that they might use the mini frame for the next SE model. It has pretty close to the same external dimensions as the 3rd gen SE, but would bring more screen real estate in the same package since it would be edge to edge instead of have the bezels. And it would also fit the rumored “release a mini every few years” strategy since they only release an SE every couple of years anyway.
The SE cannibalized mini sales because, for the most part, people that wanted the smaller size cared more about price than features, and the SE was the same size and quite a bit cheaper. Replacing the old iPhone 8 based SE with an iPhone mini based SE would kill two birds with one stone. It would let them use up a bunch of the excess stock they have laying around due to the poor sales, would bring the mini to a lower price point which would make it more popular, and would remove the competition between the SE and the mini.
Yeah, we’re saying the same thing, but for the sake of brevity, I might have spoken in a way that led you to believe I’m saying something else. I did not know about the rumors of the new SE using the mini frame, so that is some slightly good news for the small phone gang.
I don’t believe the small phone gang is small, we just have one option: a pretty expensive iPhone mini.
I want a small phone but not an iPhone, I have no option therefore manufactures assume I want a humongous phone. That’s flawed logic.
What about Asus Zenfone?
Discontinued after the 10 🥲
Did they cite any reason for the discontinuation?
Lack of sales
ASUS has denied a previous report about the possible shutdown of the Zenfone division. The company issued a press statement, rubbishing claims from a Taiwanese media outlet that reported that the Zenfone 10 would be the last flagship in the Zenfone line.
https://www.androidauthority.com/asus-zenfone-division-shutdown-official-statement-3358842/
Thanks for the news, you made my day! I have an 8 which still works very well. I was on the verge of getting a 10 while I still could…
If it is actually a larger demographic, then it would be huge opportunity for any of these other phone makers, especially those that are struggling. I highly doubt they are all unaware of the opportunity to make a smaller phone, so I suspect they have stayed away because they don’t think it will be a profitable market.
As production quantities go down, costs go up, and with the lower prices that these vendors sell at compared to Apple, their margins are already much thinner, so they have much more risk than Apple in introducing a smaller phone unless they are confident there is a large enough market for it. They simply have much less wiggle room than Apple in which to create a profitable product out of a smaller phone. Since Apple is pulling out and the others haven’t even bothered to try to compete with them in the decade that this big phone trend has been trending, I don’t think there’s any other conclusion that we can draw other than the small phone market is not large enough to pursue, but I’m open to other possibilities.
Edit: Someone else mentioned the small Asus Zenphone, which was also discontinued due to poor sales. That means at least one other manufacturer tried to make a small phone, and they came to the same conclusion that Apple did, so I see even less reason to doubt them.
ZenFone isn’t small, it’s the same size as a regular iPhone/Pro, not the Mini, so I can’t see it proving anything about small phone demand that couldn’t equally be applied to a regular iPhone or S23 etc. It also isn’t discontinued.
I was going to say that the Mini should be pretty cheap now that it’s two generations old – the 13 is down to $629 new, after all, and the Mini ought to be $100 cheaper…
But it looks like Mini demand has actually driven prices much higher than the normal 13. Strange, almost as if there IS demand for small phones…
almost as if there IS demand for small phones…
There is but the demand is small. The smaller the demand gets, the more they flock to whatever options are available.
Small supply means just about any demand change can have a big impact on price.
Apple doesn’t care about used phone pricing, and until they announced the discontinuation nobody really paid any attention to the 13 mini for a while.
I don’t believe the small phone gang is small, we just have one option: a pretty expensive iPhone mini.
You have it backwards. You have no options because your gang is too small. You used to have options but the market has moved far far away from that.
Asus makes small phones (for now).
Yea i wanted iPhone mini as well but it’s hard for me to miss abilities such as using OG Firefox (not some stupid skinned safari) with ublock origin and NewPipe.
There is the samsung galaxy base line up of the ‘S series’.
The base galaxy s is the same size as a base iPhone. 6.1 inch screen.
There’s nothing mini about it in the least. The iPhone mini had a 5.4 inch screen.
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Damn, Steve Jobs got his posthumous hooks in ya
I believe the (old but still decent) best small Android is the Samsung s10e
Pixel 5 and Zenphone come to mind, too.
Zenfone and pixel 5 are same size as galaxy S22/S23
Using this right now. If they revived the galaxy mini line (~4in screen) I’d absolutely buy it.
Except for the Bixby button, I mostly like my s10e. I have large hands, but still wish it was slightly shorter.
Have you looked into remapping the button? I use Button Remapper and I have it configured to open Google maps and Spotify
That’s still my current phone. Newer phones just look so absolutely massive.
Same, holding on for dear life with my S10E. It’s the best form factor, great power button finger print reader, dual SIM, I mean, what’s not to love. (battery is kind of meh, but I’ve added a halo ring and a magnetic induction battery).
What’s the point of a small phone if you’re going to stick a big battery to it?
My phone is big, but I don’t need an external battery. I’m curious to see the size and weight comparison between my phone with a big built in battery, and your phone + battery combo.
I’m actually using a Titan Pocket currently. Works well enough for me. The security updates are lagging behind that’s getting me considering switching back, but I’m otherwise cautious how I use it.
It’s a nice feeling device, and makes me wish they’d make more BlackBerry style phones with bigger displays and Android capability.
People see you whip the titan out and think “oh he’s doing that rollback technology thing”, then you use Android Pay and they really flip out lol.
I hope more manufacturers would adopt the Blackberry style of phones. Titan Pocket has proved that you can have Android running decently on such a device. So why not bring back QWERTY keyboards?
Same experience when i was using the Jelly 2, people loved it when i pulled it out to pay with NFC.
I think the S23 is the perfect size, I wish that was the standard, with some larger ones for people who like that.
I just got S23 because I wanted a flagship phone, but got tired of large phones that don’t fit in pockets properly. So far S23’s size has been really good. It’s large enough that it doesn’t get annoying to use it for a long time or read long articles, but still small enough that it’s generally more convenient to carry everywhere.
It’s amazing that last year when I was looking for a new phone, the one I bought was one of the smallest I could find - asus zenfone. Same physical size as my precious sony, just a few grams heavier. I’m super happy with it and ny other phone seems super huge in comparison.
Asus, Samsung and Sony are still making some very handy phones. Apple and Xiaomi can go suck it. Admittedly smaller phones in 2023 tend to be on the premium side, but imo they also last longer…because you don’t drop them as often.
Especially the Sony Experia 5 (I through V) is the perfect balance between an old school width where you can easily hold and use the phone in one hand but also have more space to scroll vertically. Its got a beautiful 21:9 display, so cinematoc content looks dope as well.
Still love my Asus Zenfone 9. Although I have to say, while the hardware is awesome, the software can be a mixed bag sometimes.
hey king. I’m curious what you don’t like about the software. it feels like mostly stock android and i think Asus did a good job by not loading it with bloat. what are your thoughts?
Honestly, it’s a lot of little things that are coming together that other companies like Samsung are doing better. Connecting to Wifi takes ages, and if one try fails, starting the next try takes forever. Also, some apps don’t support floating windows, there are also some quality of life settings that I miss every now and then. And then there’s some other minor things that I just notice in the moment and immediately forget about again lol. But I definitely appreciate that they don’t try to push their own app store, like Samsung, for example.
It’s unstable and crashes a lot. Otherwise, it’s pretty much stock Android, and it’s nice not having 16GB of extra Samsung bloatware.
Personally I’ve just had issues with pocket mode not registering and combining that with liking tap-to-wake, lift-to-wake I ended up calling my emergency contact way too many times. Still not fixed.
Also, I thought it was standard to allow for forward/backward by long pressing the volume buttons, but that option isn’t available apparently either.
It’s battery optimization is also a bit shite to be honest, however I don’t know of any manufacturer that doesn’t run afoul when it comes to that aspect.
Minor gripes really, but it feels like it could be more polished and while the UI isn’t modified too atrociously, given the above issues I’m wary of what else they’ve modified under the hood.
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“Fucking massive” you say, whilst they are all of similar width.
Personally, the Pixel 5 was the perfect size and weight for a phone.
No bulky cameras. No thick chassis. No glass adding pointless weight. Very usable as a one handed device. Symmetrical bezels.
Typing this from my pixel 5. The best sized phone ever. I think imo the use case for big ass 15 feet phones is a little overkill. Most people are just buying it because it’s “premium”.
The best sized phone ever.
Steve Jobs called the first release of the iPhone with its 3.5" screen, “the perfect size for human hands”.
Say what you want about Steve’s other claims, he was probably fairly right on that one. Humans have opposable thumbs and the average range of said thumbs when touching something cradled in the palm without external movement is about 3-4 inches.
And yet I’m typing this on a “moderate” sized Samsung A71, and to tap something on the top of the screen I need to use my other hand or shift the phone downwards in my grasp to do so.
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I recently busted out my Pixel 5 (currently using Pixel 7) to try out Lineage OS and absolutely love how it feels in my hands. It’s light and easy to reach all of the screen with one hand. Man I miss that phone.
Nice. And with Lineage its fast, root and add Kernel Adiutor to really tweak both performance and battery life.
I’m still using mine.
I still have mine on my desk but it has a screen issue so it’s unusable. I still pick it up just to feel it. It’s just so good in the hand.
Pixel 5 is great, but 4a was perfect
Nexus 5 was a good size for me, this 4a is too big to be comfortable. If rather have the bezels back, too. Much easier to use without 100% screen coverage.
Yeah, its super annoying that you can’t grab phones without touching the screen
Puts the virtual keyboard uncomfortably low, as well. I didn’t mind the buttons having a dedicated space.
The s23 is basically the same size as the pixel 5.
https://m.gsmarena.com/size-compare-3d.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=12082
I just don’t get on with Samsung devices. The software bloat ruins their great hardware for me. That’s an amazing looking phone though.
5 years ago, I would’ve agreed, but it’s pretty good today
S23 will cut your palm with its sharp edges though
The day mines dies I might just not have a phone lol
Currently using an Essential Ph1 running Lineage (Android 13) and I’m about to switch to a Pixel 4a of all things, because of size, weight (its plastic), cheap as hell (so I can keep a hot spare around and do testing for a low cost), and it has one of the highest NIT ratings of any unlockable phones.
The 5 looks good too, just not as bright, slightly larger, and a little heavier.
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My son has the 4a and it’s a great phone. Same size as the Pixel 5 too.
From what I’ve seen online, the 5 is trivially larger (like 1mm each way).
What drives me to the 4a is the brighter screen, slightly lighter, and plastic. So when I drop it (not if), it’ll bounce better.
Also, they’re cheap as hell from Walmart of all places, about $100, lol. So I can afford 2 or 3 of them for the cost of a newer phone that has performance and features I really don’t care about.
Yeah I wish my 5a was a little smaller, it’d be perfect. Still been a great phone so far. But my screen is scratched to hell because I forgot to put a protector on it.
Add a screen protector - it can hide the scratches.
My perfect phone would be a galaxys s5 with modern camere processer and compatibility with graphene os
Pixel 3 and Samsung S4 and j series were good
Ooooh nexus…
My Nexus 5 and 5X were the best phones I had ever owned, period
my first ever smartphone was the 4. it was my favorite for the longest time. i kept using it as a backup and i have 2 others I’ve harvested for parts. i love how easy it is to take old phones apart :D
6 was the best, period. Could still be on sale today and be an awesome phone
Hey, your Nexus 5X has called… actually it can’t because its still stuck in a bootloop.
That is deadass how it died and I was big sad
Same for me actually. In my case it died during travelling, which was also super inconvenient. Then it got repaired, even for free although slightly out of warranty. Then it happened again shortly after. Such a dumpster fire of a ticking time bomb.
My 5x was the best phone I owned because I paid 250 for it and got that back from my credit card warranty and then another 450+ from a class action against LG.