• @[email protected]
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      Lots of manufacturers stop calling that frame shape woman’s bikes, but rather find terms like step through or low step and so on to be better suited. This frame design is a lot more accessible for people who aren’t as mobile anymore (think old people, people with hip problems, heavy people) and are also much easier to handle with tall cargo on the back, typical example would be a child seat.

      For the average person, this frame design is probably preferable as there are no benefits to the typical male frame shape.

      My parents think it looks odd when a guy sits on one of these, but then my parents are in their sixties :>

      • @[email protected]
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        Since I am a father and decided to bring my kid with me on bike rides, I needed that frame. It’s just convenient to not have to Jean Claude Van Damme before each ride.

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          I bought a step through because of the child seat too. Luckily before I dropped cash on a new bike I had already discovered that there is no way to swing your leg over the bike frame when a child seat is attached.

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        The disadvantage is higher weight for the same structural strength because the lower and upper tube are closer together (or combined into one tube) so the leverage is much less.

        I dont mind the “mens” frame, but if other people want to use a low step frame I am not going to call them sissies or something stupid like that.

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        I don’t understand why there’s even a difference? Seems like that frame design would work great for everyone?

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      It’s a commuter bike. Most bikes in the US are sports bikes, designed for athletes. Most bikes in the Netherlands are commuter bikes, designed for average people. It’s not “small dick energy” for a man to not be an athlete. That’s toxic masculinity that harms men. It’s misandrist and it upholds patriarchy. Part of destroying patriarchy is liberating men from judgement like this.

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          Good point, but calling a commuter bike a girl’s bike because it’s not for athletes has the same problem.

          I for one think men should be allowed to have a comfy and easy ride to work or the grocery store no matter what their fitness level

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      They’re also called “step through frame bikes” in places where people don’t associate them with cycling in a skirt

    • m3t00🌎
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      they were girl’s bike when I was a kid, 70s. I’d ride it. heck I’d put on a skirt and ride it just to piss off the dork in the monster truck

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    One gets accused of being an inbred redneck as they “roll coal” at the other one, while the other one sneers at regular people. They’re both bags of rancid dicks for very different reasons.

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      I don’t know about where you live. But here cyclists stick to the cycling paths almost all the time. A simple chime or ring from their bell will do just fine to let people know if they’re coming. No need for sneering buddy. Let go of your anger.

      Also, fuck cars.

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      “Regular people” meaning the masses who have normalized shitty and selfish behavior. The sneers are well fucking earned.

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        Regular people meaning people who know someone else using a bicycle doesn’t harm them in any way therefore they don’t care. The truck guy and the bike guy however won’t stfu about it.

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      Most people who ride bikes just ride bikes. And a minority are what you call “cyclists”.

      You’re lumping them all together and are part of the problem. Dick.

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    My car is closer in size to the bicycle than the truck.

    Also, most of these trucks around here have an orange triangle at the back and are driven by teenagers.

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      Ah yes, Big Bicycle.

      A very real thing that has lobbiests and a department you have to go to. You know, the DPV, the department of pedalled vehicles, its where you are forced to do basically everything from register to vote to get a death certificate. It’s CRAZY how much influence Big Bicycle has over our society.

      I mean did you know that ~40,000 americans per year are killed by traffic violence every year. I bet 99% of those are from extremely fat men riding osmium bicycles at 50 mph, running people over!

      And did you know that bicycles use alchemy to create almost all of the pollution that coats our cities, adversely affecting the health of everybody who doesn’t bike?

      I mean hell, can you imagine bulldozing empoverished minority neighborhoods in every city in the US for 50 years to build these federally funded 12 land elevated bike lanes that totally exist? The nerve of those cyclists advocacy groups!

      Damn bicycles, who the heck do they think they are?!

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      Some dude drives on of those where i live. I’ve never seen it move, it’s always parked on the same spot where it doesn’t fit. Completely with aouthern state flag and stickers that say that only gay cops pull him over and how every car that is not a v8 is for girls. I’d be so embarrassed to drive that thing.

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        I got more compliments from women while I was driving my 1.4L inline 4 Honda in a week than I got in 10 years with a 4.2L Ford V8.

        So yeah, V8s attract men. Sensible cars are for girls.

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        where i live, which is in the south, every 3 cars is one of these, they lift suvs too, so that increases the odds. when cops clock out they also drive one of these, even the gay ones. driving it is no big deal, its how they drive and what they do with it, usually road raging other road users, intimidating them, and trying to run them off the road, in other words bullying and intimidation, which is likely why they own one in the first place. why do they feel a strong desire to bully or intimidate anyone? that’s a great question. why do you have to knock out the biggest guy in jail to get any respect? …

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          There is a dealership here called lifted trucks(I know very straight forward. straight to the main selling point) they have more lots here than other dealerships.It is very clear the amount of lifted trucks here went up significantly. The whole city screams that I’m only doing it to get women because I’m insecure about myself. Which is the reason why I wish to move to Europe’s walkable cities or just move to a place with no one around.

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            Okay so you own a lifted truck but you dream of walking in europe with no one around? Sounds like a great movie script. How will you get rid of the people?

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          driving it is no big deal

          It’s impossible to safely drive a car like this. You can’t see children standing in front of you, and no matter what you’re gonna pollute. Pollution is dangerous.

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            I know I’m going to catch some heat for this, but… Maybe you should be out watching and paying attention to your kids and keeping them out of the fucking street??? I mean, fuck dickheads who need to advertise their small dick by driving these abominations, but whether they’re squished by a Ford F650 duallie with a 84" lift or my little compact sedan, they’re gonna have a bad day

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              So what’s your solution, then? We just drive our huge trucks and run over all the kids who have bad parents? We take a life that we could have saved, in order to spite someone else? Cause that seems evil.

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                So parents shouldn’t be held accountable for their crotch spawn running amok in a right of way? What’s YOUR solution? Funny how (at least in the US) you need to take a test and be licensed to drive, but any two dipshits can somehow find a way to literally not take any one of several available, some even taxpayer funded, precautions, or, irresponsibly have the kid with the plethora of options available, squirt out another human being, no test or license required. If you can’t be bothered to take care of a kid, then don’t fucking have one. This includes being present when they’re outside playing when there’s the chance of them being hurt. /rant

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                  So you want to hold parents accountable by killing children. And you don’t think that’s evil?

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          And a dodge challenger, Chevy Camaro, all of the Nissan Z series and all of the skyline series, the delorean dmc-12, most mustangs, Acura nsx, Subaru wrx sti, the list is literally hundreds of cars long.

          All of these cars are definitely too much car for that dude I can guarantee it.

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      Also, it probably weighs over 3500 kg, so you’ll need a C license to drive it. Fun fact, if you have one of those, you can also drive a huge lorry. Why would you choose an eyesore like that, when you could be a badass rock hauler.

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    Ain’t that the truth. I’m constantly fighting this fight in my own city where we only get bike gutters, not even lanes. Complain complain complain from the people who claim they care about the neighborhood.

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    Either way, around here I almost always see both end up doing stupid shit on the road. I don’t give a fuck what you’re driving. Obey the rules of the road, follow the flow of traffic, be aware of your surroundings, and for fucks sake, signal properly and clearly! Nobody’s in a race. We can all get where we’re going safely and timely if y’all just stop acting like you’re escaping a war zone!

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      couldn’t agree with you more… can’t tell you how many times I’ve nearly been hit by another car all because they cut in front of me suddenly, not signaling, naturally, and just sped off like they’re in a race. I will see ppl going nearly 100mph in the interstate, just weaving back and forth between lanes. will never understand why ppl have to be in such a damn rush all the time. what’s the point of getting somewhere 2 minutes sooner if you hurt or possibly kill someone along the way? worst part of it is that the cops here never seem to be around to keep assholes like that in check.

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        Oh it’s constant here, and they all act like you’re the problem. So many fatal accidents every year, pedestrians killed, at least one fatality due to people racing. Constant hit and runs. It’s like driving in GTA.

        I just took a client to the mall a couple hours ago. On our way, we watched someone honk at the person next to me/in front of them at an intersection, they then tailgated them until the other person changed lanes, threw their drink, and screamed out the window. The driver’s crime, as far as I can tell, was because they didn’t move in the millisecond between when the light turned green and the psycho behind them lost their mind.

        We’re in the off season now, too. Don’t even get me started when the tourists come!

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          plenty of hit and runs where I’m at also, especially for pedestrians. the amount of accidents even in just a week is scary. exactly! it’s almost like driving the speed limit is the crime now. there’s ppl who will pass on a non passing road just to get ahead of me bc I’m apparently driving too slowly. just the other day I got honked at bc the left turn light had just turned green, but the person in front of me hadn’t even started turning yet. no one has a speck of patience on the road. I just want to know why lmao

          ffs, seriously? that’s such an extreme response. and it’s truly so mind blowing to me that there’s ppl who view pedestrian life as secondary to getting where they need to be. I’ve seen drivers swerve past pedestrians as they’re crossing and honk at them and everything. it’s wild out here.

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      The difference is that one of the two can be use has a lethal weapon. I’ll let you guess wich one.

  • @[email protected]
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    Is this a trick question?

    The obvious choice is the truck. Take the truck and sell it. And then buy a bike, car and down payment on a house.

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      googles kia forte

      My guy that’s a car, not a land yacht.

      Nobody is mad at you for having a car thats reasonably sized. You should be the most angry about these child-flattening-front-over-machines because youre the one who they’ll kill while they’re playing pokemon go on their dash television instead of looking at the road.

      These assholes are destroying your roads, giving your kids asthma, and running over your friends and family. And they hate having their sociopathy pointed out.

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        Would it be okay if I use an electric car that does not give asthma? Serious question. Also I do not play shitty games like pokemon go.

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          Turns out most car pollution is actually from rubber tires flaking off and putting microplastics in your lungs.

          This gets worse the heavier the car is, and because electric cars are heavier, theres a chance that EVS could actually be worse for particulate emmission than moderately efficient regular cars.

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              Wear is nonlinearly dependant on number of cycles, materials, and load. I’ve not seen anything in the litterature that indicates rubbers can maintain safety while decreasing their amount of particulate pollution. In fact, ive seen that they are a direct trade with one another.

              Lighter cars being forced to drive slower, would do something about it. Also, simply restricting the number of cars in a city the same way we restricted the density of coal burning power plants in a city would also solve the problem in the exact same way.

              Non-rubber materials such as steel do not have this problem, which is why trains are good.

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                From https://evmagazine.com/sustainability/how-much-pollution-comes-from-electric-vehicle-tyres

                Emissions Analytics provides various samples from its tests to give an all-round view of tyre pollution. The team has now tested more than 300 tyres on the European market, identifying 78 organic compounds and recognising 46 hazards codes. It turns out the least toxic tyre compound is 85% less polluting than the most toxic version.

                I think the answer does lie in using less toxic tyres, as a starting point, something I was suspecting.

                Another source says:

                The International Union for Conservation of Nature pegs tires as the second leading source of microplastic pollution in oceans, and one 2017 study found a global per capita average of .81 kilograms in tire emissions per year, ranging from .23 kg per year in India to 4.7 kg (roughly 10 pounds) in the US. That may seem minor stacked up against the nearly 300 pounds in plastic waste the average American generates each year, but microplastics are tiny by definition — and an insidious source of toxins that researchers are only beginning to understand.

                There is a colossal difference between India (where I live) and US, for example.

                Also another article points out only large BEVs will be heavy, as usual BEVs will become similar in weight to normal fossil fuel cars by 2025.

                Motorcycles produce exponentially lower pollution than cars, and cycles more or less produce none, which should be used, but cars are a need due to shitty designing of cities, and capitalist growth chasing.

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                  Oh that’s excellent news. I hope this won’t be used an excuse to neither lower vehicle speeds nor improve the places that we live. I also don’t know if this will offset the doubling or tripling of the average automobile in terms of weight that is happening. Also, I fear that if these tires are even slightly less profitable to create, they will not be adopted, rendering fixation on them worse than useless.

                  It’s also a massive issue that some tires and asphalts are far quieter than others, which makes the people forced to live near high speed car infrastructure substantially less miserable. Noise induced stress is one of those health effects that I’m personally too anxious to read in detail about, as it scares the hell out of me. It’d be wonderful if quieter asphalt and tires were also the same kind that were less polluting, but I have learned that tech brained ideas pitched by car companies claiming to solve their massive problems rarely do.

                  Also, perhaps “EV magazine” has a vested interest in portraying inherent problems with automobiles as non-inherent?

                  I don’t want less car induced lung cancer, I want no car induced lung cancer.

                  Halving vehicle weights or ranges or top speeds would also nonlinearly decrease tire wear while also decreasing vehicle cost and danger to others, but here in the US none of those things are happening. Instead, every possible negative attribute is worsening, along with corresponding fluff pieces and propoganda to convince truck owners that they aren’t doing the harm that they are doing. I also feel terrified that these fluff pieces are poisoning wells of activism around the world, harming the entire human species rather than just the imperial core.

                  It’s true that smaller, two wheeled vehicles are drastically better for the environment, and the fact that so many cities in europe and southeast asia are able to exist with so few “cars” is a disagreement I have with your last, excellent sentence. I very much wish I posessed the intelligence to separate Private automobile ownership from Commercial automobile ownership, but I forget to most of the time. I do genuinely believe that private automobile ownership should be as rare as policy can make it, just like it is (kind of) for airplanes in the US.

                  Thank you for the excellent link.

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    both stereotypes want to use the government to oppress the other instead of living and let live…i literally have and love both

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      In the US, the government dispropotionately subsidizes car ownership and punishes cheap/sustainable living with actionable threats of death at the hands of sociopathic truck owners with persecution complexes.

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      Right…both of these are somehow equally bad /s

      What with big bike making people more healthy and being far better for the planet 😓

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        and if a city is designed right without so many parking lot requirements, travel times become lower, people become safer, noise levels go down dramatically, you appreciate that hopefully well designed city and its businesses, much lower stress levels when commuting, and you feel calmer as well.

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      Except drivers actually do that then cry oppression over giving up a foot on the edge of the road, and outright communism if you suggest a partitioned bike lane or improved public transit.

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    Yank tanks truly are the peakest of cringe. I’d be embarrassed to show up in one of those things

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      “Yank Tank” 😂

      Still see plenty of those out in western Canada.

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          they were a thing when I lived in Texas in the late 70s. A guy I worked with had a big yellow Ford with 5’ high tires. Everyone had pickups. I had a Datsun pickup with DOHC sounded like it would blow up at 60 but smoothed out again at 70. commutes were wild

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          We seem to have been invaded by them in the last 2 years or so. I don’t see why regular utes and 4wds have been fine until now, but suddenly every tradesman needs one of these.

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            I seen a comment that they were covered by the instant tax right-off and so their dealers were pushing them to business owners and tradies who were more than happy to buy 2-ton codpieces oversized vehicles. Seems to check out from my experience with them.

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              I’m a registered tax agent. This isn’t really true - but, it’s exactly what someone needing a 2-ton codpiece would say.

              If you use a passenger vehicle exclusively for work / business, then you can claim depreciation on it’s total cost up to a maximum of ~$66k (last year… this limit is indexed each year).

              Vehicles with a carrying capacity of > 1 tonne are not subject to this limit as they’re “commercial” vehicles rather than passenger vehicles.

              So if you had a $100k to spend on a new car, then a landcruiser wagon / SUV will be less tax effective than a RAM ute because you can’t claim a deduction for the entire cost of the ute.

              That said, no one actually chooses between those types of vehicles on the basis of the tax deduction available - you either want a ute or you don’t. The choice is always between a hilux size ute and a ram size ute. Additionally, I don’t have a list but I’ve heard tell that very few of the bigger utes actually have a carrying capacity of > 1 tonne once you subtract the potential weight of passengers.

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            Fun Fact: it’s because of US CAFE standards imposed on auto makers. It’s not that people don’t want small and mid-sized trucks; it’s that it has been illegal to make them since 2012, the last year of the actual Ford Ranger.

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              there is one guy in town with a big “Miss me yet” tRump flag mounted on the porch next to an american flag. Only one I’ve seen around here. Probably his mom’s house. drive by it about every day. that’s dedication or something. has a big red truck too. I am so tempted to steal it but won’t risk getting shot. maniacs. I just flip the bird like a good citizen and follow court proceedings.

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      You are just mad u cant afford it on your measly europoor salary. Americans stay winning.

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        My penis is too long, so I am not allowed to own such a car.

        My car is half as big and still has the same cargo space actually.

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          my cringe compilation

          INT. SMITH FAMILY LIVING ROOM - DAY

          Morty is sitting on the couch, engrossed in his smartphone, while Rick is tinkering with one of his inventions.

          Morty: (excitedly) Hey, Rick, you gotta check this out! There’s this new thing called “Cringe Compilations” on the internet. It’s like, people doing really awkward stuff and everyone makes fun of them!

          Rick: (glances over) Cringe compilations, Morty? Seriously? The internet’s been around for decades, and that’s what you’re excited about?

          Morty: (nervously) Well, I just thought it’s kinda funny, you know, watching people act all weird and stuff.

          Rick: (rolls eyes) Morty, it’s called the internet. It’s a vast wasteland of cringe and chaos. (pauses) But you know what? Maybe it’s time I enlighten you about the wonders of the multiverse.

          Rick pulls out his portal gun and creates a portal.

          INT. MULTIVERSE - INTERGALACTIC INTERNET CAFE - DAY

          Rick and Morty step out of the portal and find themselves in a futuristic internet cafe filled with all sorts of bizarre creatures from different dimensions.

          Morty: (looking a round) Whoa, Rick, this place is insane!

          Rick: (smirking) Welcome to the Intergalactic Internet Cafe, Morty. Here, you’ll find cringe beyond your wildest nightmares.

          They sit down at a terminal, and Rick starts typing away.

          Rick: (typing) You see, Morty, cringe is a universal constant. No matter where you go, there’s always gonna be something that makes you cringe.

          On the screen, we see a bizarre video titled “Zogork’s Awkward Dance-Off.”

          Morty: (watching) Uh, Rick, what’s that?

          Rick: (grinning) That’s Zogork, the three-headed space alien trying to dance. Now that’s what I call cringe!

          Morty: (cringing) Oh, geez, Rick. That’s… something else.

          They browse through various cringe videos from different dimensions, including a segment where people are trying to speak backwards, a cat that thinks it’s a parrot, and a sentient jello mold attempting stand-up comedy.

          Morty: (laughs) This is insane, Rick! I’ve never seen anything like it.

          Rick: (chuckles) Morty, the multiverse is a treasure trove of cringe. But here’s the thing, it’s all relative. What’s cringe in one dimension might be considered cool in another. It’s all a matter of perspective.

          Morty: (still laughing) Yeah, I guess you’re right, Rick. Cringe is in the eye of the beholder.

          They both continue to watch cringe videos, sharing a laugh and learning a valuable lesson about embracing the quirks of different realities.

          FADE OUT.

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            I really hope you used AI to generate that text, because god damn what a waste of time otherwise.

            Didn’t read regardless

            • @[email protected]
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              Ill rewrite it in your language:

              Int. Smith family livin’ room - day

              morty be sittin’ on tha couch, engrossed in his muthafuckin’ smartphone, while rick be tinkerin’ wit’ one o’ his muthafuckin’ inventions.

              morty: (excitedly) hey, rick, yo’ gotta check dis out! there’s dis new thang called “cringe compilations” on tha internizzle. It’s like, people doin’ really awkward shit n’ y’all makes fun o’ 'em!

              rick: (glances over) cringe compilations, morty? seriously? tha internet’s been ‘round fo’ decades, n’ that’s What the fuck you’re excited 'bout?

              morty: (nervously) well shiiit, i just thought it’s kinda funny, yo’ know, watchin’ people act all shit n’ shit.

              rick: (rolls eyes) morty, it’s called tha internizzle. It’s a vast wasteland o’ cringe n’ chaos. (pauses) N’ therez Ain’t nuthin’ but yo’ know What the fuck? maybe it’s time i enlighten yo’ ‘bout da wonders o’ da multiverse.

              rick pulls out his muthafuckin’ portal glock n’ creates a portal.

              int. Multiverse - intergalactic internizzle cafe - day

              rick n’ morty step out o’ da portal n’ find themselves in a futuristic internizzle cafe filled wit’ all sorts o’ bizarre creatures from different dimensions.

              morty: (lookin’ a round) whoa, rick, dis place be insane!

              rick: (smirking) welcome ta tha intergalactic internizzle cafe, morty. Here, you’ll find cringe beyond yo’ goddamn wildest nightmares.

              they sit down at a terminal, n’ rick starts typin’ away.

              rick: (typing) yo’ peep, morty, cringe be a universal constant. No matta Where the fuck yo’ git, there’s always gonna be somethang dat makes yo’ cringe.

              on tha screen, we peep a bizarre porno titled “zogork’s awkward dance-off.”

              morty: (watching) uh, rick, what’s dat?

              rick: (grinning) that’s zogork, tha three-headed space alien tryin’ ta dance. Naw that’s What the fuck i call cringe!

              morty: (cringing) oh, geez, rick. That’s… somethang else.

              they browse through various cringe videos from different dimensions, includin’ a segment Where the fuck people r’ tryin’ ta speak backwards, a pussaaaaaay dat thinks it’s a parrot, n’ a sentient jello mold attemptin’ stand-up comedy.

              morty: (laughs) dis be insane, rick! i’ve neva peep anythin’ like dat shit.

              rick: (chuckles) morty, tha multiverse be a treasure trove o’ cringe. N’ therez Ain’t nuthin’ but here’s tha thang, it’s all relative. What’s cringe in one dimension might be considered funky-ass in anotha. It’s all a matta o’ perspective.

              morty: (still laughing) yeah biatch, i guess you’re right, rick. Cringe be in da eye o’ da beholda.

              they both continue ta watch cringe videos, sharin’ a bust n’ learnin’ a valuable lesson ‘bout embracin’ tha quirks o’ different realities.

              fade out.Q then me.

              • @[email protected]
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                After seeing this bullshit, I have an offtopic question: can you block accounts on Lemmy? Pretty sure I never want to read any other line of this guy in my life.

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                  92 years ago

                  Found that function in about 0.75s. Click the username. Now click “Block User” which is on the top line.

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        I think you mean “Americans stay in debt”. Most of the idiots you see driving these trucks are paying half their paycheck for what is essentially a billboard advertising their small penis.

        The only people impressed by your truck are children. Everyone else can tell that you are trying to compensate for your ‘inadequacies’

        We are all laughing at you behind your back.

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    262 years ago

    I’ve actually never had anyone in a monster truck tell me I should buy a monster truck. So…by unfortunate definition…