• @[email protected]
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      so 0.3 ~= 1-ln(2)=max(1-ln(2),1-ln(2)) = floor(ln(2*e^(1-ln(2)))) = floor(ln(2)+(1-ln(2))) = 1 ?

      That would bee engeneer 2, not Mathematician3 xD.

      Just out of curiostity, what was you Idea behind that?

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        Guess only work with integers, specially for the floor function that is going to give you an integer at the end everytime.

        Not my idea, learned it somewhere while doing college in an statistics class. The idea is that the exponential function grow really fast, so small difference on variables become extreme difference on the exponential, then the log function reverse the exponential, but because it grew more for the biggest variable it reverts to the max variable making the other variables the decimal part (this is why you need the floor function). I think is cool because works for any number of variables, unlike mathematician 2 who only work for 2 variables (maybe it can be generalized for more variables but I don’t think can be done).

        For a min fuction it can be use ceiling(-ln(e^-x + e^-y))

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          to be fair it does seem to work for any two numbers where one is >1. As lim x,y–> inf ln(ex+ey) <= lim x,y --> inf ln(2 e^(max(x,y))) = max(x,y) + ln(2).

          I think is cool because works for any number of variables

          using the same proof as before we can see that: lim,x_i -->inf ln(sum_i/in I} e^(x_i)) <= ln(I|) +max{x_i | i /in I.

          So it would only work for at most [base of your log, so e<3 for ln] variables.

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            I don’t have a mathematical proof, but doing some experimental tests on excel, using multiple (more than 3) numers and using negative numbers (including only negative numbers) it works perfectly every time.

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              Try (100,100,100,100,100,101) or 50 ones and a two, should result in 102 and 4 as a max respectively. I tried using less numbers, but the less numbers you use, the higher the values (to be exact less off a deviation(%-difference) between the values, resulting in higher numbers) have to be and wolframAlpha does not like 10^100 values so I stopped trying.

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              thanks for looking it up:).

              I do think the upper bound on that page is wrong thought. Incedentally in the article itself only the lower bound is prooven, but in its sources this paper prooves what I did in my comment before as well:

              for the upper bound it has max +log(n) . (Section 2, eq 4) This lets us construct an example (see reply to your other comment) to disproove the notion about beeing able to calculate the max for many integers.

  • @[email protected]
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    Engineer I guess… Thief is the objectively better enterprise programmer option but I don’t know why I always forget about it and just write a ternary ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

    • @[email protected]
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      JS instills distrust. Rely on built-in sort? It’s alphanumeric. Rely on built-in reverse? It modifies your array. Copy an array? No you didn’t.

      Yeah no kidding we bang out a kata in a dozen characters. I don’t even believe in order of operations at this point. I’ve been routinely betrayed.

  • @[email protected]
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    Bit hacker 2 is really fascinating. It uses a bit mask of all 1s (-1) or all 0s (0) and takes advantage of the fact that y ^ (x ^ y) = x and y ^ 0 = y

  • GTG3000
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    Why use const max = (x, y) => x > y ? x : y instead of function max(x, y) { return x > y ? x : y } ?

  • davel [he/him]
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    642 years ago

    Thief. Writing code is for chumps, and the more code you right, the more of a chump you are.

    • cheer
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      why say many word when few do trick

    • tiredofsametab
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      Writing code is for chumps, and the more code you right, the more of a chump you are.

      So you’re the one in there wronging up my code?

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      Some of us have trust issues. Or worked with Java.

      Which, now that I think about it, comes to the same thing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Why would you use anything other than Math.max?

      I mean, I might be being paid by the hour or my performance measured by lines of code…

    • Zagorath
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      Well, the question sort of implies that you’re needing to implementing Math.max yourself, for whatever reason. Probably as an exercise. It doesn’t make sense to reuse a library that implements the feature if you’re explicitly being asked how you would implement it yourself.

      • Demonen
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        142 years ago

        This is why I think school and interviews are like a whole different universe from the one where actual work gets done.

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          In some ways they can be wholly different, but I don’t think this is a good example of it.

          Any programmer who cannot implement “take two numbers, return the larger one” is clearly not very competent. Even though you’re never going to literally need to implement Math.max yourself at work, you are going to need basically the same types of skills. Probably 95% of the work I do day-to-day is stuff you’d learn in your first year at uni, and this just shows that you’ve got that ability.

          In practice, the best interviews I’ve had usually set a slightly more complicated task as a do-in-your-own-time problem and then go through what you did in the actual interview. Problems like “read a list of names in the form , each name on a separate line, from a text file. Sort the names by last name, then by other names. Output to another text file. Include unit tests.” They wouldn’t then expect you to re-implement the sorting algorithm itself, but more want to look at the quality of code, extensibility, etc.

          More basic questions like the one in the OP, or fizzbuzz, are decent as well, and a big step up from lame questions like “what does SOLID stand for? What does the Liskov substitution principle mean to you?” Even if they’re not quite as valuable as a miniature project.

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            I think you can probably make the question a lot more interesting by asking them to implement max without using any branching syntax. I’m not saying that is necessarily a good interview question, but it is certainly more interesting. That might also be where some of the more esoteric answers are coming from.

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            In practice, the best interviews I’ve had usually set a slightly more complicated task as a do-in-your-own-time problem and then go through what you did in the actual interview.

            The best interviews you’ve had are the ones where you’re doing free work on your own time?

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              “Work” is a debatable term. It’s not work that provides any direct value to the company, if that’s what you mean. But yes, it involves more effort on my part.

              But yes. Not only does this method let me show that I’m good at what I do (far better than nonsense theory questions do), I have also found that companies that use this approach tend to come across as a better fit in other ways during the interview process.

          • Demonen
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            12 years ago

            For me, a good interview is a dialogue where the company representative shows me as much about the company as I do about me as a candidate. Take-home tasks are okay, I guess, but I suspect they might balk at me requesting they handle a mock HR issue, or whatever, for me!

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    wtf kind of cursed programming language is this? JS? it’s so ugly, in no universe should a function look like that

    but obviously as a rust enjoyer i have to do it like

    fn max ⟨T: PartialOrd + Copy⟩(nums: ⁊[T]) -> Option⟨T⟩ {
        let mut greatest: ⁊T = ⁊nums[0];
        match nums.len() {
            0 => None,
            1 => Some(*greatest),
            _ => {
                for num in nums {
                    if num > greatest {
                        greatest = num;
                    }
                }
                Some(*greatest)
            }
        }
    }
    

    edit: lemmy formatting REALLY hates references and generics it seems… time to go back to medieval times

    • @[email protected]
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      Wow that’s a very exhausting language. I dropped your code into an online rust to asm converter and it actually wasn’t more! I did try to post it for fun but lemmy kept messing up the code block. Oh well, wasn’t that amusing anyway!

      • @[email protected]
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        lol that’s not actually how rust is written, it was just a joke

        it’d really be written

        if x > y { x } else { y }
        
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          Hah thanks for clarifying. I was joking too and it’s a shame I couldn’t post the results.

          Though I admit i don’t know anything about rust. I’m sure I’d like it better than the proprietary garbage i use now that just gets converted to ASM / PLC code in the end. But I can’t skip the middle man. I’m not gonna try but probably 30mins for me to “write” the above.

          Besides, how do you make money if I can code something in an hour as opposed to 2 days?

            • @[email protected]
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              No no no you misunderstood me.

              I was being honest, I know nothing of rust. I have however used python in embedded systems with positive results. The product didn’t make it but for other reasons.

              Funny you mention java, that’s sorta what I’m stuck in but not like you think. Beyond the fact that it’s a bloated nightmare.

              I’m just a low-level programmer at heart but I have bills to pay. The rust stuff was all just a joke… i don’t know it but maybe i should. Thanks for the info.

              Saying anymore about what I do is just super embarrassing but i promise i meant no ill will. Excuse my frustration, I’m locked into a proprietary system i have no control over. You would laugh your ass off if you saw it. Anyway, i meant no offense, have a good night!

    • @[email protected]
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      Ah yes, rust. The language that somehow manages to manages to as verbose as possible, with as much jargonized shorthand that a computer could handle.

      • @[email protected]
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        Exactly, I don’t understand why languages have decided that every keyword needs to be as randomly minified as possible. fn, def, rune(ok that’s not minified, just a dumb name), fmt, std. Many of these things aren’t new, but programmers recognize descriptive variable names are important, the same should be true for keywords.

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      Hmm.

      “`” section .data nums: dd 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 len: equ $ - nums

      section .text global _start

      _start: mov ecx, len mov esi, nums mov eax, [esi] mov ebx, eax

      loop_start: add esi, 4 cmp ecx, 1 jle loop_end

      mov eax, [esi]
      cmp eax, ebx
      jle loop_start
      
      mov ebx, eax
      loop loop_start
      

      loop_end: mov eax, ebx ret

      “`”

      Oh i have no idea if that code is valid, just pasted from some online converter. Been a long time since asm days and I never really felt it. but wow rust seems a bit, uh… that’s a lot of typing.

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    112 years ago

    Either engineer or bit hacker, depending on whether or not I’m trying to avoid branching.