Windows 11 keeps trying to install different stuff, notifying you about how great edge is, requires new hardware, and more. Windows 12 is rumored to be cloud only with a subscription?
What will do you?
I might switch to Linux, gonna be hard tho when you got elitists and gatekeepers in the Linux instance
The linux community is 99% people that want to help you switch, and will go far, far beyond what’s even reasonable to ask of someone in the way of help. And Linux is to the point of not needing any assistance to get installed on most hardware.
If that’s your reason for not switching, it sounds like an excuse.
You are correct, it’s a warm and helpful community… except for the people who like the smell of their own farts.
Lemmy is better. But reddit is lousy with ignorant twats saying bullshit like “Linux is just a superior philosophy”, but who have never written a line of C or C++ in their lives. They know nothing about system design or computing history. They make claims about windows that apply equally to linux, or vice versa. They use terminology in a nonsensical context. In short, smug fools. It’s not unwelcoming so much as unappealing.
The best thing about Windows is that no-one is smug about using it.
Man it is just not like that. At least for me I tried to switch to Linux a while back and had nothing but problems.
You also have to realize that most people coming from windows have years of experience with that operating system and learning something brand new can be a challenge.
On the Linux community site I agree there’s a lot of people trying to help but very few of that trickles down to the end user. When you Google something you inevitably come up with some ancient forum thread that leads you to put some crazy ass command line command in without explaining literally any of it. The assumption is that if you’re using Linux you should already be a master at the operating system.
I will say that install of the next went really really well for me I installed pop os which seems like it’s the most user friendly option. But after a while you just want something to work. It is not too much to ask for there to be a gui implementation of something. And for there to be somewhere to go to ask a question without being fucking badgered by people who think just asking the question makes you a fucking dumbass.
In my windows 10 server change to Ubuntu. In my personal pc continue using windows 11 or 12 when release
The ONLY thing keeping me off Linux atm is VR.
My use case is more specific than just a Valve Index though. I have a Windows Mixed Reality headset and requires windows to run well and feature full.
I really like having the option to whip out VR at a moments notice. Maybe ill dual boot linix, but it seems like a pain for whats essentially going to be my home media console/gaming rig.
I did turn my old rig into a Linux computer for my personal desktop. Loving Pop OS! From a casual perspective. I just need my browser, steam, and some FOSS linux alternatives.
Regarding VR, Monado (OpenXR for Linux) continues to improve, they’ll get WMR going, completely, eventually.
Edit: it’s further along than I thought. Apparently you can get even hand tracking working. Gotta look into it further, but it appears that you use Monado as your OpenXR client, along with ALVR/ALXR.
Fantastic news. Im totally down to go down this rabbit hole again and see where these projects are sitting now. Thanks for the heads up.
Same, I was considering Linux, but I have a reverb g2, so atm it’s a no go.
There are dozens of us!! Dozens!!
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I switched to Linux the other day. I still have Windows installed in case I need it for things, and I still have GamePass, which requires windows. I’ve been using Linux for just about everything though since I installed it. It’s such a nicer experience. You don’t have to choose a singular OS though luckily. You can have both available.
I will update my Arch distro to Arch 2
“If Arch is so great, why haven’t they made Arch 2?”
I’m planning on dual booting to test the waters and hopefully phase out windows for good in the next years.
I don’t think I’ll need to update my VMs
Hot take: Microsoft stops supporting Windows altogether and switches to maintaining its own Linux distro (yes, it does exist, but it’s not for consumers)
Yeah, no way that’s gonna happen. They’re never gonna kiss those Windows licensing fees goodbye. If anything, they’ll double down and make it a subscription. Linux is too free for Microsoft and their shareholders.
A subscription based operation system is what I like to call my worst nightmare.
Well, isn’t it gonna fail since everyone is gonna be so mad about it that they’re just gonna leave? Or is brand loyalty way too powerful?
In my experience, it isn’t as much about brand loyalty as it is about a mix of convenience and damage control.
For as many faults as Windows has, Microsoft would definitely reel themselves in from jumping the shark. Yearly fees could be justified by saying they’re really affordable + you get customer support. Add onto that how entrenched Windows is and how unapproachable the competition is by comparison(seriously, how many computers come with Linux or BSD pre-installed?) and you basically can’t lose.
Sure, there will be a subset of people will switch to an alternative or pirate Windows, but regular home users aren’t the major source of Microsoft’s revenue anyway, it’s businesses that largely depend on Windows.
Right.
I am running Win11(pro) because the new Intel CPUs require it.
It’s completely fine. I use Firefox without edge annoying me. There are no apps that just pop up out of nowhere (that I know of). It’s fine. I locked down all the temeletry shit like I did on Win10.
The only thing annoying me is the change in the preview in folder icons. I wanna see the pictures that are in the folder not the. xmp files Darktable creates.
This. If you’re used to working with windows, 11 is the usual song and dance of disabling a bunch of telemetry shit and making sure windows update only runs when prompted.
I don’t even bother to do the latter on my windows machine since it’s my gaming rig and that doesn’t stay on unless I game (my server runs Debian), so there’s plenty of chances for it to install updates when rebooting.
Sure, sometimes it adds some half baked garbage “feature” like the weather widget and you gotta kill it, but that’s hardly an issue.
Thank you. I think it’s silly the amount of work it takes to initially learn how to properly debloat, install, and configure Windows nicely but once you’ve learned it it’s not tough to do. It’s only time consuming at worst, even with changes to an entirely new version. Even with Linux Distros there’s a certain amount of time you need to set aside to set up stuff how you want.
I am running Win11(pro) because the new Intel CPUs require it.
Say what? Why does it require it?
IIRC it has something to do with the process scheduling in 10 and lower that is not discerning between efficiency and performance cores
Yeah, Win10 can’t properly handle the efficency cores. So it’s either upgrade to Win11 or disable the cores. (Or play with terrible random stutters)
Assuming 12 is terrible, that’s probably when I’ll make the switch to Linux. Hopefully by then, it’ll be even smoother for newbies, and work even better for gaming than it already does
I tried out Garuda Linux for a while (had to switch back to Windows because of an automotive ODB II program), and I can confirm that it worked better for Remote Play than Windows. With the runaway success of the Steam Deck, I expect that to only improve.
I keep a spare laptop around just for those occasions when something absolutely requires windows. I don’t use it much but it beats the pants off of maintaining a dual boot setup on my daily driver. (I spent like, $200? On the spare. I picked up an “as-is, boots and works fine but has no SSD installed” 12th gen i7 laptop on fleaBay. Absolutely worth it.)
Hopefully I will be on SteamOS or some other Linux distribution by them.
Microsoft never seems to stop making it harder to use Windows. At this point I have Windows 10 relegated to a USB SSD, and I only boot it in extreme circumstances. I have tried to install Windows 11, and it’s just not happening. Microsoft stopped supporting Windows to Go years ago, and the installer simply will not play nice with my disk setup. I sunk more hours into troubleshooting Windows 11 installation than I have with any Linux distro I’ve used, and I still walked away without a working install.
So at this point it’s all Linux, (almost) all the time.
I’m not going to lie and say that using Linux is a perfectly smooth experience. It’s not. But neither is using Windows. As Thomas Jefferson once said: “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.” The inconveniences of Windows are only getting more severe as time goes on.
I couldn’t agree more. I’ve had Windows exposure since 3.1, and I somehow hate it more all the time.
In one of my last jobs I was a system admin, and the laptop they gave me had nearly-unfixable problem out of the gate. Microsoft’s own fix it tools did nothing, repeatedly. I eventually had to go scorched earth on the registry to get anywhere with it. I have never struggled with Linux so much.
Switch to Linux. In fact, I already switched when Windows 10 came around. I don’t miss Windows to be honest. The only time I use Windows is to play games that arent compatible with Linux or if I need to use an app that is only available for Windows.
If Game Maker ends up releasing their Linux IDE in a non-beta state, I’ll switch to Linux tomorrow. It’s one of the few tools still keeping me on Windows.
Linux, Gaben be praised for lowering the bridge
I went all in with Linux and dumped windows and android…
Android Is technically Linux tho
Not just technically. The killer combo of FOSS operating systems is GNU/Linux on desktop and Android OSP on mobile.
I’m curious what the person you replied to is running on their phone if it isn’t Android based.Let’s be honest it’s probably iOS. Gross.
Maybe Ubuntu touch?
You’re using a Linux phone? Which one
