• @[email protected]
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    It made $2 billion but I don’t know anyone that saw it. Or if they did, they didn’t talk about it.

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      As a lot of people I saw the first one in 3D IMAX surrounds DTS whatever. Once. Never watched it again. Never saw the second one.

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      I saw it. I enjoyed it a lot. Pandora’s seas look even more stunning than the forest did in the first movie. Loved meeting the Omatikaya clan and Jake’s new family (Spider and Kiri too, of course). Also, Quaritch being reborn as a Na’vi made him a much scarier and more interesting antagonist than he was. Can’t wait to see what Cameron has in store for us in the sequels.

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      I saw it, it was shit, specially because I remember the first. The plot of the 2 is horrible, even comparing with first that was generic.

      The story moves around the fact that humans want to get rid of blue ppl from a place to explore mineral resources, the leadr of the blues go away, instead of massacre the blue ppl they go for the leader in another place (???)

      And half of the movie is just kids doing shit to help the plot show the water, this movie was a long and slow torture.

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        22 years ago

        If I remember correctly, Sarge (no idea wtf his name is) had a vendetta and the folks not in his direct circle of troops were hesitant to allow his pursuit of Jake.

        Don’t mistake this as some defense of perfect writing, it wasn’t my favorite or anything, but I do think that was talked about.

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          12 years ago

          Yeah you don’t remember his name. Action and horror movies depend almost solely on the strength of the villain. So when no one can remember even the name of the villain what does it say about the movie?

          • JackbyDev
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            12 years ago

            I don’t remember characters’ names from movies I love either though. I’m very bad with people’s names as well.

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                12 years ago

                Of course I do, I’m just saying it’s very common for me to forget. I loved Scream but I can only remember Tatum. Matthew Lillard I kept calling Shaggy. I recently saw Insidious again and I remember like, Elaine? And that’s it. My memory of characters’ names doesn’t seem to correlate very strongly with the quality of the movie.

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          12 years ago

          But iirc the general also sent soldiers after Sarge (I also don’t remember his name) to kill Jake, it was not just the vendetta guy

          • JackbyDev
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            12 years ago

            Yeah, like once Sarge convinced them they were on board but I could’ve sworn there was at least hesitancy. His argument was something like Jake is a symbol? Idk.

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          112 years ago

          I believe if was 80 minutes I would remember it as a good movie and a visual masterpiece, but now I remember as a slugg story that destroyed a technical achievement.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        I watched it in 3D on mushrooms. It was one hell of an experience that way, but my god it felt like it lasted 10 hours

        • @[email protected]
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          72 years ago

          I saw 3D as well and It was undisputable beautiful, but half of the movie I didn’t see, I was rolling my eyes. I Just can’t accept how a movie so expensive was unable to create a plot aligned with the Idea of a visual masterpiece.

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            22 years ago

            Yeah, my friend was over it as soon as he saw humans sent the same exact general who got his ass kicked the first time back to try to do the exact same thing. Obviously it can’t be 100% realistic but if there was any suspension of disbelief at all it could have been so much better

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      52 years ago

      I heard many people mention it. I think mostly high schoolers (I work in education)? Probably the same people who watch anything that’s trending news. People I know who are actually old enough to see the original in theatres mostly seemed uninterested.

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        32 years ago

        Well if you only watch it on a small screen that makes sense. In Imax 3D it was stunning, and very engrossing.

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          52 years ago

          The special effects were beautiful it was the plot that was the problem. Pretty much the same as the first one.

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            32 years ago

            And that’s a problem?

            I still enjoyed the story, but being so drawn in by the world is what certainly helped make it more enjoyable.

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              12 years ago

              Once it leaves theatres, of course that is a problem lmao. Where can I go see it in imax 3d? Spend half a million dollars on a home cinema?

              I watch most movies at home, as do most people (especially since covid), if I can’t even buy tickets to the theme park then what interest is it to me?

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        42 years ago

        Knowing James Cameron it’s probably more of a submarine money laundering operation

  • @[email protected]
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    172 years ago

    It was such a bad movie too. Dude was really just like “let’s remake the first movie, but wetter”

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        72 years ago

        And then, “Let’s remake them all, but earthier”

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      12 years ago

      And no character arcs for anyone. Well except for Quarich, he was literally the only reason to see the movie and even his character was boring as shit.

  • SokathHisEyesOpen
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    62 years ago

    Um… I wasn’t aware that it was humanly possible to have a 12 pack. I didn’t know that humans even have that many muscles on the front of their abdomen.

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      12 years ago

      Me being charitable: if you enjoyed the first you are most likely going to enjoy the second. If you are over the age of 12 and have seen more than 8 movies in your life you are probably not going to enjoy it.

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            12 years ago

            I feel like it would’ve been better with only the water stuff. Just take the bad guys out completely. Just have it be the story of the Sully family being accepted into a new tribe. There was still plenty of conflict to focus on.

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    Gotta love the realistic space ships.

    Literally melted in my seat when I saw the radiators. FUCKING incredible

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      it’s up to five films total, now. the remaining three with tentative release dates stretching from 2025 to 2031. cameron has a plan for a further two more but disney hasn’t committed past the fifth one—yet

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    112 years ago

    He can’t keep getting away with it!

    I feel like there was a good movie in Avatar 2 but a lot of the scenes looked like they didn’t render them fully. The FPS changes felt random. If they’d done ALL action in 48 and ALL dialogue in 24 it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    The scenes of the kids rescuing the parents were so gorgeous. Stunning. But compare that to the scene of the boat jumping and crashing? Insane how shitty it looked.

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      12 years ago

      At a certain point, his success and money is just self-sustaining. He could release a video of him shitting and it would make half a billion domestic. Like, there are at least 3 more Avatar movies coming. Terminator was an actual cultural phenomenon that people can remember the names of all of the characters and the plot, and yet it only did a fraction of the numbers Avatar does. Explain that.

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      I don’t know how it made so much money. I guess people are seeing it and not talking about it?

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        22 years ago

        Chinese distribution. China made the Warcraft movie profitable because audiences hated it in North America.

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        This is precisely it. Avatar had originally the exact same problem that the Way of the Water has now. They’re tech demos. Interesting, pretty, they move people to see what’s what on the theater. But, offer close to nothing emotionally or culturally resonant. It’s like a generic roller-coaster, you show up, enjoy the ride, then go get some fries having nothing deeper to say about the experience because the experience doesn’t offer anything deep. It doesn’t mean the movies are bad or that they weren’t enjoyable, that’s why they made so much money. But there’s no conversation to have around them except to remark on how much they cost to make, or how did the CGI looked like or whether other studios will use the tech invented for this movie on other movies. Plot, characters and symbolism are shallow pools. Specially to an audience that is sick and tired of mega blockbuster sequels.

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    I’m assuming the sequel is also forgettable considering that I’ve barely heard a thing about the plot.

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      The plot is FUCK YOU THIS WHALE IS GONNA RIP SOME GUYS ARM OFF IN 3D AND IT’S FUCKING DOPE

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      The sequel is literally “the exact same movie as the first one, but this time with water (and bonus animal cruelty)”

      I actually enjoyed the first one, but the second movie added nothing of value and cheapened everything that happened in the first one (in that literally no one gives a shit about unobtanium anymore)

      Edit: Curious as to what the downvoters are taking issue with about my comment. Nothing wrong with liking the movie, but you have to admit the plot was basically identical to the first one, just with new characters and a different setting

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        162 years ago

        No no no no, it doesn’t just have a plot. It has the same plot even with all the same protagonists and antagonists.

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          Someone better get him out of his sub the air is making him a bit loopy enough to think avatar 2 is a good plot