Let me guess what kind of people predominantly lived in the neighborhoods that were bulldozed.
Sadly, I don’t think there’s enough uncertainty to consider it a guess.
Blue=Black, Red=White.
So you have a before version?
No, that’s from 2000 I think.
Atlanta is still apparently the USA’s second most segregated city, so I can’t imagine it was a multicultural wonderland in the 1950s.
The article those pictures appear to be from says it was mostly black neighbourhoods demolished.
Sure the designers of this monstrosity thought, “There are only black people living there, so it’s a win-win” -.-
You can thank Robert Moses for that.
How do roads even end up like this? The cloverleaf is as extreme as I’m willing to drive through. If anything like this came up in Google maps for my drive I would just nope on home.
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Just follow the arrows
Yeah they only seem complicated from the air, on the ground you just read the signs and it’s always clear, or if you’re using your phone - just go in the lane it tells you
Engineer answer: being a stack interchange, it’s actually easier to navigate than a cloverleaf because there’s only one exit in each direction instead of separate “A” and “B” exits with an entrance ramp and weaving in between. The complexity in this case simply comes from the fact that it’s superimposed on top of what used to be a street grid, so they added a bunch of exits to local streets.
Big-picture answer: the desire to put freeways there in the first place is the product of mental illness.
JUST ONE MORE LAME,I SWEAR TO GOD, JUST ONE MORE LANE AND WE’RE DONE. ONE MOAR LANE. MOAAAAR
A little lane of asphalt please,
More pollution if I freeze,
Running over children these,
A fresh bouquet of cancers.
(Parody of Glass of Water)
“What do you mean, why’s it got to be built?” he said. “It’s a bypass. You’ve got to build bypasses.” Bypasses are devices that allow some people to dash from point A to point B very fast while other people dash from point B to point A very fast.
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It’s a quote from hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
You’ll love Dubai
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You can take this picture in just about any city in the US too. NYT did a pretty good piece about it, gifted so y’all can read it: Can Removing Highways Fix America’s Cities? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/27/climate/us-cities-highway-removal.html?unlocked_article_code=1.60w.uuX5.Oo4CsHZXGv8Q&smid=nytcore-android-share
Cool illustration, thanks!
Always wondered why Atlanta is pronounced “Atlana”
I guess it’s good to know I don’t pronounce most of those incorrectly.
It’s a good thing removing all those homes definitely didn’t cause or contribute to any way more serious problems in society. Right?
/s
Am I the only one who finds the 1950s version also not nice from an urban planning perspective? I mean, it is a car-centered design anyway.
Still, do you see how many trees there are? That place must’ve still looked nice and was certainly transformable into a really nice place without unreasonable effort.
Now, it’s basically a wasteland.
Nah not really, such low population density requires cars to be used. If you think tearing that down would be simple, then yes. But I think that even in Atlanta that would be difficult. The reason why those highways are there is that more people wanted to live in that kind of neighborhood.
The reason why those highways are there is that more people wanted to live in that kind of neighborhood.
No, those highways are there because white men got together and intentionally chose to put the highway there with complete disregard (or quite possibly, with malice) for the people who lived there.
such low population density requires cars to be used
As someone living in a much less dense area, I wholeheartedly disagree. Even just a single tram stop with >=bi-hourly frequency near the center could make that entire area car-free if the people weren’t car-brained. That area looks like it’d be bikable in <10min side-to-side, so most people could probably even walk to such a tram stop.
(That tram would actually need to go somewhere but that’s part of a larger system’s problem, not of this hypothetical neighbourhood.)
There are a lot of assumptions there.
First of all, I am sure that is part of something much larger and it is a real neighborhood, not something hypothetical.
Second, I don’t see people giving up their car brains just because you put a tram. I myself would still be using a car if it wasn’t made completely superfluous and fatiguing where I live and work.
There are a lot of assumptions there.
Absolutely.
I am sure that is part of something much larger and it is a real neighborhood, not something hypothetical.
I’d agree but I don’t see how that makes a difference. My point was that the visible part could be served by even just one tram station. If there are more such parts, you’d obviously need tram stops for those aswell. (More tram stops would realistically be necessary anyways.)
I don’t see people giving up their car brains just because you put a tram.
Me neither. Point was that it’d be possible for those people to reasonably get where they need to go without any cars involved with as little infrastructure as a single tram stop.
The former streetcars aren’t an “assumption;” they’re historical fact. Here’s the damn map!
That was not the assumption. Also, that map is either 20something years too early or too late to be proof of much of what was going on in the 1950s.
Yea just get rid of the poor people right?
That’s what I was thinking. Neither solve the problem. The 1950s one just resulted in bigger traffic jams. What solves the problem is robust public transportation.
Looks like what happens with headphone cables in the pocket.
Is that a swastika block?
Any block is a swastika block if you ignore the right set of roads.
But that’s not the block’s fault ;)
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Above the highways a bit to the right. Partially visible.
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Those are the state government offices next to the Capitol building. It’s not actually a swastika, but if it can be mistaken for one it’s not a great look. 😬
Cities should be built around people, not motor vehicles.
@arc you mean, would we have to really use public transport ? 😟 🤔 @sexy_peach
Yes, or cycle / walk.
Nice little neighborhood you got there. Would be a shame if someone needed a new highway, wouldn’t it?
Weird how it always goes through the minority neighborhood
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The expressway must expand in order to acommodate the increasing needs of the expressway
It’s greener now, right?
Freeway medians don’t count as green space.
